Finding GCF of 3 Terms: 102k^5m^2, 51k^4m, 153k^2m^2

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The discussion revolves around finding the greatest common factor (GCF) of three algebraic terms: 102k^5m^2, 51k^4m, and 153k^2m^2. Participants explore the process of determining the GCF for both coefficients and variables, while addressing misunderstandings related to the exponents of variables in the context of GCF.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant outlines a method for finding the GCF of coefficients and variables, concluding that the GCF is 51k^2m.
  • Another participant questions how the GCF for k can be k^2 when k^5 is not divisible by k^2, indicating confusion about the concept.
  • A different participant attempts to clarify by explaining the multiplication of variables and suggests that k^5 can be expressed in terms of k^2.
  • Further discussion includes a participant's confusion regarding the GCF in a different example involving z, questioning why the GCF is z^2 instead of z^1.
  • Another participant corrects a misunderstanding, emphasizing that the GCF for k is k^2, not 2, and clarifies that k^5 is divisible by k^2.
  • One participant suggests a method for finding the GCF of expressions with prime factors, proposing that the smallest power of each prime factor should be taken.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying levels of understanding regarding the calculation of GCF, particularly in relation to variable exponents. Some participants agree on the method of finding GCF, while others remain confused about specific aspects, indicating that the discussion is not fully resolved.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty about the treatment of variable exponents in the context of GCF, and there are unresolved questions regarding the application of these concepts in different examples.

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hey guys, getting back into some basic algebra (so hope you don't mind a real newbie) and was doing a factoring tutorial on the web, and came across this.

The work for finding the GCF of three terms is shown below.

102k^5m^2
51k^4m
153k^2m^2


First find the GCF of the coefficients:
102 (1, 2, 3, 6, 17, 34, 51, 102)
51 (1, 3, 17, 51)
153 (1, 3, 9, 17, 51, 153)
GCF (of coefficients only) = 51


Next find the GCF of the variables:

k^5 m^2

k^4 m

k^2 m^2

GCF (of variables) = k2m


Now multiply the two GCFs
GCF of the entire term = 51k^2 m

what I don't understand is how the GCF for K is 2. Because 5 is not divisble by 2. So how can that be?

here's a link to the page if the above is not clear.

http://www.algebrahelp.com/lessons/f...indgcf/pg2.htm

Thanks!
 
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k^5 = k x k x k x k x k = k^2 x k^3. Does that help?
 
hmmm, kinda, can you explain a little bit more about it. didn't know that you can add the exponents when you are looking for the GCF
 
Let us denote k^2 by n. Therefore k^5 = n.k^3 and k^2 = n. Therefore n is the GCF.
 
cool, I get it now! stupid me lol. thanks for your explainantion!
 
dizco29 said:
I still don't get how in this case the common factor for z is ^2. shouldn't it be z^1?
thanks!
z^3 = z^2 x z
 
dizco29 said:
cool, I get it now! stupid me lol. thanks for your explainantion!
You're welcome. :smile:
 
dizco29 said:
what I don't understand is how the GCF for K is 2. Because 5 is not divisble by 2. So how can that be?

You're error is clear in the wording- "The GCF for K" is not 2! It is k2. 5 is not divisible by 2 but k5 certainly is divisible by k2.
 
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this is a slly problem to do by that method. this poroblem involves only the same prime factors. e.g. to find the gcf of expressions of form a^n b^m c^p, where a,b,c, are all prime, just take each prime and raise it to the smallest power it has in any term given.

e,g, in your example you have 3^r 17^s k^t m^u, and just taking the smallest power of each occurrence gives immediately 3^1 17^1 k^2 m^1.
 

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