Finding height in uniformly accelerated motion

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The discussion revolves around a problem in uniformly accelerated motion involving two objects: one thrown upwards and another released from a height. The goal is to determine the height from which the second object is released, given that both objects hit the ground simultaneously.

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  • The original poster attempts to calculate the time taken for the first object to hit the ground and subsequently the distance traveled by the second object. Some participants question the use of terminal velocity and the equations applied, suggesting a reconsideration of the approach.

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Participants are actively engaging with the original poster's calculations, providing feedback on the equations used and suggesting alternative methods. There is a recognition of a missing component in the original poster's equation, which has led to a productive exchange of ideas.

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There is a mention of the absence of air resistance in the problem setup, which may influence the assumptions being made about the motion of the objects.

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Homework Statement
An object is thrown vertically upwards from ground level with an initial velocity of 40 ms–1.
2.0 seconds later another object is released from a height above the ground and falls vertically
from rest.
Both of the objects hit the ground at the same time.
From what height above the ground was the second object released?
Relevant Equations
##v=v_{0}+at##
##\Delta x=\frac{v^2-v_{0}}{2a}##
First of all I have found the time taken by the first object to hit the ground back: ##\Delta t=2(\frac{v}{a})##.
Then, by subtracting 2 seconds to this quantity, I get the time in which the second object has accelerated in free fall, with terminal velocity ##v=at##.
Now, I find the distance traveled by the second object: ##\Delta x=\frac{v}{2a}##... but the result I get is wrong!
 
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What value of height your result has?
Could you show us your work?
 
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greg_rack said:
Homework Statement:: An object is thrown vertically upwards from ground level with an initial velocity of 40 ms–1.
2.0 seconds later another object is released from a height above the ground and falls vertically
from rest.
Both of the objects hit the ground at the same time.
From what height above the ground was the second object released?
Relevant Equations:: ##v=v_{0}+at##
##\Delta x=\frac{v^2-v_{0}}{2a}##

First of all I have found the time taken by the first object to hit the ground back: ##\Delta t=2(\frac{v}{a})##.
Then, by subtracting 2 seconds to this quantity, I get the time in which the second object has accelerated in free fall, with terminal velocity ##v=at##.
Now, I find the distance traveled by the second object: ##\Delta x=\frac{v}{2a}##... but the result I get is wrong!
"First of all I have found the time taken by the first object to hit the ground back: ##\Delta t=2(\frac{v}{a})##".Ok
"Then, by subtracting 2 seconds to this quantity, I get the time in which the second object has accelerated in free fall, with terminal velocity ##v=at##. ?" Terminal velocity? Where is the air resistance to you talk about it?
"Now, I find the distance traveled by the second object: ##\Delta x=\frac{v}{2a}##... but the result I get is wrong!" This equation is wrong, you forget one square

Why don't you try to use the simple ##h = 0.5at^2##? You don't need to know more than the time
 
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LCSphysicist said:
"First of all I have found the time taken by the first object to hit the ground back: ##\Delta t=2(\frac{v}{a})##".Ok
"Then, by subtracting 2 seconds to this quantity, I get the time in which the second object has accelerated in free fall, with terminal velocity ##v=at##. ?" Terminal velocity? Where is the air resistance to you talk about it?
"Now, I find the distance traveled by the second object: ##\Delta x=\frac{v}{2a}##... but the result I get is wrong!" This equation is wrong, you forget one square
And that's exactly the square which was missing... Now it works! Thank youu
 
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