Finding Intercepts of an Equation

[Drakkith]

Homework Statement

Find the intercepts of the following equation: y=\frac{-x^3}{x^2-9}

Homework Equations

To find the X-Intercept, set Y equal to zero and solve.
To find the Y-Intercept, set X equal to zero and solve.

The Attempt at a Solution

Setting Y equal to zero gives me: 0=\frac{-x^3}{x^2-9}
This simplifies to: 0=\frac{-x^3}{(x+3)(x-3)}

And now I'm stuck.

 

[Mentallic]

The first thing you should remind yourself of is that we can't divide by 0. Clearly since the denominator is

x^2-9=(x-3)(x+3)

and this quadratic is equal to 0 when x=\pm 3 hence our original equation does not exist at those x values.

So now, we consider when x is any other value.

If we have some fraction a/b for any numbers a and b where b is anything except 0, then when is this fraction equal to 0?

 

[Drakkith]

If we have some fraction a/b for any numbers a and b where b is anything except 0, then when is this fraction equal to 0?

Never?

 

[Mentallic]

What does 0/5 equal to? 0/100? 0/k? for any k that isn't 0?

 

[Drakkith]

Either zero or undefined. I'm guessing zero?

 

[Drakkith]

Okay, I looked it up and it's definitely zero.

 

[Mark44]

Okay, I looked it up and it's definitely zero.

Yes, definitely. Zero divided by any nonzero number is zero.

 

[Drakkith]

Yes, definitely. Zero divided by any nonzero number is zero.

Yeah, I feel bad that I had to go look that up. I guess it's been a while since I did math.

 

[Mentallic]

Yeah, I feel bad that I had to go look that up. I guess it's been a while since I did math.

It's ok, that's what we're here for!

So you can look at this problem in two ways, either notice that a fraction of the form a/b is equal to zero when the numerator is equal to 0, so in your equation

y=\frac{-x^3}{x^2-9}

To find when y=0, i.e. to solve

0=\frac{-x^3}{x^2-9}

we just need to find when the numerator -x³=0.

Or the other way, simply multiply both sides of the equation by the denominator of the fraction.

0\times (x^2-9) = \frac{-x^3}{x^2-9}\times (x^2-9)

Now on the RHS we can cancel the factor of x²-9 in both the numerator and denominator to end up with just -x^3, and on the LHS, 0 times anything is still 0, so of course again we end up solving 0=-x³.

 

[Drakkith]

Hmmm. The only thing I can think of that makes -x³ zero is x = 0.

So that would make the X intercept zero then, correct?

 

[Mentallic]

Hmmm. The only thing I can think of that makes -x³ zero is x = 0.

So that would make the X intercept zero then, correct?

Yes and yes.

 

[Drakkith]

Okay, then if we set X = 0 to find the Y intercept: Y=0/-9, which would make Y=0.

So the intercepts are (0,0)?

 

[Mentallic]

Yes, but I wouldn't call it two intercepts

Just a little extra in case you're curious:
We didn't even need to check x=0 (the intercept of the y-axis) because we already have from the x-axis intercept that (0,0) is satisfied.

The alternative doesn't always suffice though. If we first checked x=0 (the y-axis intercept) and found y=0 satisfied this, we would still need to solve for y=0 because we could possibly have more solutions for x such as in the case of quadratics.

Now, the reason why we wouldn't need to check x=0 (as opposed needing to check y=0) is because y is a function of x. Functions have a very important property that for every x-value, there is only ever one y-value, so when we found that for x=0, y=0, we couldn't possibly have another value for y given x=0, so we didn't need to test x=0.

 

[Drakkith]

Just a little extra in case you're curious:
We didn't even need to check x=0 (the intercept of the y-axis) because we already have from the x-axis intercept that (0,0) is satisfied.

Interesting. I didn't even realize that having the X-intercept as 0 meant that we also had the Y intercept. Makes sense. Thanks, Mentallic!