Finding length of airport runway

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The discussion revolves around calculating the required length of an airport runway for a jumbo jet landing, considering its landing speed, deceleration, and a safety margin. The subject area includes kinematics and motion equations.

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  • Participants explore the relationship between initial and final velocities, acceleration, and distance traveled during the deceleration of the jet. There are attempts to apply kinematic equations and conversions between units.

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The discussion has seen various attempts to calculate the acceleration and distance, with participants correcting each other's unit conversions and signs for acceleration. Some guidance has been provided regarding the correct application of formulas, but there is no explicit consensus on the final runway length.

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Participants are working under the constraints of homework rules, which may limit the information they can use or the methods they can apply. There is an ongoing discussion about the correct conversion of speeds from km/h to m/s and the implications of negative acceleration.

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the landing speed of a jumbo jet is 300Kn/hr. After landing, the jet comes to the safe taxiing speed of 30Km/hr in 12 seconds. The airport authorities would like to keep a saftey margin of 250 metres of runway. How long should the runway be for the safe landing of jumbo jets?

Now, I remember doing this in class. I just can't find my notes.

I was thinking that it might have something to do with:

Final velocity(v)= initial velocity(u)+acceleration(a) x time(t)

maybe re-arranging it then being able to find the distance travelled.
so:
a=(u-v)/t

all help appreciated
 
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Your formula for a is correct. Convert km/h to m/s and find the acceleration.
There is a kinematic equation which contains vi,a,t and x. Using that equation find x.To it add safety margin to find the length of the run way.
 
ok. from what you've said this is what I've tried
u=300km/hr=1080m/s
v=30km/hr=108m/s
t=12s
safety margin=250m

to get a
a=(u-v)/t
=(1080-108)/12
=81m/s

so: distance covered=u.t + 1/2.a.t^2
=(1080 x 12) + (1/2 x 81 x 144)
=12960 + 5832
=18792m
then add the safety margin
=18792 + 250
= 19042m
= 19.042km

am I any closer to the answer do you think?
 
Your conversion of km/hr to m/s is wrong.
The plane is slowing down. So the acceleration must be negative.
 
ok so it would be
a=(v-u)/t
=(108-1080)/12
=-81m/s

so: distance covered=u.t + 1/2.a.t^2
=(1080 x 12) + (1/2 x -81 x 144)
=12960 + -360
=12600m
then add the safety margin
=12600 + 250
= 12850m
= 12.85km
maybe?
 
300km/hr = 300*1000/3600 = ? m/s
 
had that the first time and thought i was wrong.
that being the case
so: distance covered=u.t + 1/2.a.t^2
=(83.33 x 12) + (1/2 x -6.25 x 144)
=999 + -450
=549m
then add the safety margin
=549 + 250
= 799m
= 0.799km
you must hate me by now =]
 
Now the answer is correct.
 
thanks so much rl. you are a legend
 

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