Finding m in quadratic equation 12x^2 + 8mx + (4m-3) = 0

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The discussion centers on proving that the quadratic equation 12x² + 8mx + (4m-3) = 0 has rational solutions for any integer value of m. The discriminant, calculated as Δ = 64m² - 192m + 144, simplifies to Δ = (8m - 12)², indicating that the square root of the discriminant is always an integer. This confirms that the solutions derived from the quadratic formula, x = (-8m ± √Δ) / 24, are rational for all integer m. Participants suggest using the factored form of the discriminant and the quadratic formula to solidify this proof.

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Hey. Today i had a test on quadratics and discriminants. I think i did fairly well, but i am a bit confused about one of the questions i had in it.

We were given the following quadratic equation:

[tex]12x^2 + 8mx + (4m-3) = 0[/tex]

What we had to do was prove that for any integer value of m, the equation would have rational solutions.

What i did was first take the discriminant of the equation:
[tex]\Delta = (8m)^2 - 4(12)(4m-3)[/tex]

simplified it:
[tex]\Delta = 64m^2 - 192m + 144[/tex]

From that, i then created a table of values. I made a table of values for m (-5 to 5), the discriminant, then the square root of the discriminant. Since all of the square roots were whole numbers, i could have used that as a reason why all the solutions would be rational, but its not really proving that all values for m will follow the rule. It just shows that 10 of my chosen values work.

from here i wasnt really sure what to do. I noted that the discriminant of the original equation was a quadratic function itself, so i graphed it, and noticed that for every integer value of x, its corrosponding y value will be a perfect square number. I wrote about this observation, and am just hoping its close enough to what i should have done.

If anybody has any idea about if i should have gone about this another way, or if i was right, please post :) all comments greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Dan.
 
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Try factoring the discriminant. Then use the quadratic formula to show that all answers are rational.
 
danago said:
Hey. Today i had a test on quadratics and discriminants. I think i did fairly well, but i am a bit confused about one of the questions i had in it.

We were given the following quadratic equation:

[tex]12x^2 + 8mx + (4m-3) = 0[/tex]

What we had to do was prove that for any integer value of m, the equation would have rational solutions.

What i did was first take the discriminant of the equation:
[tex]\Delta = (8m)^2 - 4(12)(4m-3)[/tex]

simplified it:
[tex]\Delta = 64m^2 - 192m + 144[/tex]
So far so good.
Do you know what are rational numbers? They are numbers that can be expressed in a form of a fraction p / q, where p, and q are whole numbers (integers).
To prove that the solutions are rational for any integer value of m, you should prove that:
[tex]\frac{-8m \pm \sqrt{\Delta}}{24}[/tex] is a rational number, right?
Note that:
[tex]\Delta = 64m ^ 2 - 192m + 144 = (8m - 12) ^ 2[/tex].
Can you go from here? :)
 

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