Finding Mass m2 for Equilibrium: Two Masses on a Meterstick

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The discussion revolves around a problem involving two masses hanging from a meterstick with a fulcrum at the center. The original poster seeks to determine the mass required for equilibrium, given specific positions of the masses.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster presents a calculation involving torques to find the unknown mass. Some participants question the procedure and the relevance of distances from the center of mass. Others suggest that summing moments about a point with an unknown force is a preferable approach.

Discussion Status

Participants generally agree that the original poster's procedure is correct, with some offering minor recommendations for improvement. The conversation indicates a productive exploration of the concepts involved, particularly regarding torque and center of mass.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the center of mass of the meter stick is at the pivot point, which influences the calculations. There is an acknowledgment of the complexity of torque and the importance of understanding the underlying principles.

k-rod AP 2010
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Two masses hang from a meterstick whose fulcrum is at 50.0cm. M1=.100kg acts at 20.0 cm, what value of mass m2 at position 70.0 puts the the system at equilibrium?

(.3m*(.1kg*9.8m/s2))=(.2m*(9.8m/s2*x kg))

.294 N*m=.2m(9.8*x N)

1.47 N=9.8*x N

x=.15 kg

Is this procedure correct? The distances in the first equation are from the center of mass, which is y they are different from the distances given in the problem.
 
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k-rod AP 2010 said:
Two masses hang from a meterstick whose fulcrum is at 50.0cm. M1=.100kg acts at 20.0 cm, what value of mass m2 at position 70.0 puts the the system at equilibrium?

(.3m*(.1kg*9.8m/s2))=(.2m*(9.8m/s2*x kg))

.294 N*m=.2m(9.8*x N)

1.47 N=9.8*x N

x=.15 kg

Is this procedure correct? The distances in the first equation are from the center of mass, which is y they are different from the distances given in the problem.
In this problem, the center of mass of the meter stick is located at the pivot point. While you can sum torques about any point, it is best to sum moments about a point where a force is unknown , since it avoids having to solve for the unknown force at that point. Your procedure is nevertheless correct ( you could have saved a step by not converting mass to weight, but in general, it is a good idea to do so ).
 
Looks right
 
your process looks good to me but as PhantomJay said that is one step i would recommend as well
 
ok that is what i was hoping to hear, thanks a lot guys. torque is confusing but once you get the center of mass stuff down its ok,,,
 

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