Finding mole fraction of polymers from weight percents %

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The discussion revolves around calculating the mole fraction of polystyrene in a blend of polystyrene and polypropylene based on weight percentages. Participants explore the implications of using molar masses of polymers versus their monomers and the assumptions involved in the calculations.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant outlines a method for calculating the mole fraction using weight percentages and molar masses, converting grams to moles.
  • Another participant questions the necessity of using the molar mass of the polymer instead of the monomer, suggesting a potential misunderstanding in the problem statement.
  • A different participant raises the point that the molar mass of a polymer is not simply the sum of the molar masses of its monomers, implying that the polymer's structure and composition must be considered.
  • It is noted that the molar mass of a polymer is an average value and can vary based on the number of monomers that reacted to form the polymer.
  • A further critique highlights an error in the initial calculation, specifically regarding the assumption that the molecular weight of the polymer can be derived from the individual monomers' weights, which may not hold true for all polymer compositions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the appropriate approach to calculating the mole fraction, particularly regarding the use of molar masses and the definitions involved. There is no consensus on the correct method or assumptions to be used.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the calculation's accuracy may depend on the specific definitions used for molar fraction and the average molar mass of the polymer, which can vary based on its composition.

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Watsup! I'm taking this nano class which is awesome but I am getting stuck on the gen chem material! no bueno. just want to make sure i did this right. Thanks!

Homework Statement

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"A blend contains 45wt% polystyrene and 55wt% polypropylene. What is the mole fraction of polystyrene in the blend?"

The Attempt at a Solution


I think I remember having to change the percents into grams,
then find the molar masses of the total blend and the polystyrene.
Then divide the grams by the molar masses leaving moles/moles --> so unitless
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45[g(PS)]/100[g(total)]
Polystyrene: (12*8 + 1*8) = 104[g/mol]
Polypropylene: (12*3 + 6*1) = 42[g/mol]
total= 146[g/mol]

(45/104)/(100/146) ≈ 0.632
 
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This is at least strange. Unless they mean something else than they asked, to calculate molar fraction you need to know molar mass - of the polymer, not of the monomer.

Unless for some reason they decided to use a definition of molar fraction that is different from the definition used in general chemistry.
 
Why wouldn't the molar mass for the polymer be the sum of the molar masses of the two different monomers?
 
Molar mass depends on how many monomers reacted when producing one polymer molecule. And it is (almost) never a strict value, it is an average.
 
You are using 100g of polymer in your calculation. You have determined that 45g of this is PS. Where you went wrong is with the factor 100/146. You assume here that the molecular wt of the polymer is the algebraic sum of the molecular weights of the individual monomers. This would be true only for a polymer derived from an equimolar mixture of the two monomers.
 

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