How to Calculate the Percent Weight of Components in a Gas Mixture?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the percent weight of components in a gas mixture, focusing on the relationships between molar mass, mass, and the number of moles. Participants explore theoretical approaches and mathematical formulations relevant to this topic.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents a formula for total molar mass and attempts to express weight percentage in terms of the molar masses of the components, seeking clarification on how to determine the coefficients a and b.
  • Another participant suggests that assuming an arbitrary volume of the mixture might aid in the calculations, although they express uncertainty about its usefulness.
  • Further contributions reiterate the importance of understanding the relationship between the total molar mass and the individual component molar masses, questioning the sum of the coefficients a and b.
  • One participant reflects on their learning process, acknowledging their previous lack of understanding regarding the average molar mass formula and how it relates to the weight percentages.
  • Another participant discusses the implications of having a specific volume of gas and how it allows for the formulation of linear equations to express total mass and number of moles, emphasizing the equivalence of using average molar mass in the calculations.
  • Participants engage in deriving equations for percent weight based on mass and density, indicating a progression in understanding the problem.

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Participants express varying degrees of understanding and approaches to the problem, with no consensus reached on a definitive method for calculating the percent weight of components in the gas mixture. Multiple competing views and methods remain present throughout the discussion.

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Participants highlight the need for assumptions regarding the volume of the gas and the relationships between mass, moles, and molar mass, indicating that the discussion is contingent on these factors. Some mathematical steps and definitions remain unresolved.

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Homework Statement
A mixture of ##\mathrm{NO_{2(g)}}## and ##\mathrm{N_2O_{4(g)}}## at ##63\,\mathrm{C^°}## and ##750\,\mathrm{mmHg}## pressure has a density of ##1.98\,\mathrm{g/L}##. What is the weight% of ##\mathrm{NO_2}## in the mixture?
Relevant Equations
##d=\frac{MP}{RT}##
The total molar mass is ##M=\frac{dRT}{P}=\frac{1.98*0.08206*(63+273.15)}{750/760}=55.3454786\,g/mol##.
We have ##M=aM_1+bM_2## where ##M_1## and ##M_2## are the molar masses of ##\mathrm{NO_2}## and ##\mathrm{N_2O_4}## respectively.
If I consider ##n## moles, I'd have ##m=nM=naM_1+nbM_2=m_1+m_2## and so the weight percentage would be ##\frac{m_1}{m}*100\%=\frac{aM_1}{aM_1+bM_2}*100\%##, but how can I find ##a## and ##b##?
 
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Would assuming you have an (arbitrary) volume V of mixture help?
 
Borek said:
Would assuming you have an (arbitrary) volume V of mixture help?
The I'd have ##1.98V\,g## of matter but I don't see how that can help.
 
If M = aM1 + bM2, what is a+b? (Remember molar mass is an intensive property.)
 
mjc123 said:
If M = aM1 + bM2, what is a+b? (Remember molar mass is an intensive property.)
Unfortunately I couldn't solve this on my own. ##a## would be ##n_1/(n_1+n_2)## and ##b=1-a##.
I am comforting myself by saying that I didn't know about the average molar mass formula and then didn't put much thought in seeing that ##\frac{aM_1}{aM_1+(1-a)M_2}=\frac{n_1M_1}{n_1M_1+n_2M_2}## :cry:
I now know, however.
 
archaic said:
The I'd have ##1.98V\,g## of matter but I don't see how that can help.

If there is 1L of gas, how many moles is that?

Basically the information given allows you to write system of two linear equations - one to express total mass in terms of sum of masses, the other to express total number number of moles as sum of numbers of moles.

Using average molar mass is equivalent to one of possible "middle" stages of the math involved you can reach when solving this system of equations.
 
Borek said:
If there is 1L of gas, how many moles is that?

Basically the information given allows you to write system of two linear equations - one to express total mass in terms of sum of masses, the other to express total number number of moles as sum of numbers of moles.

Using average molar mass is equivalent to one of possible "middle" stages of the math involved you can reach when solving this system of equations.
Yes, I also read this from the solution, I understand better now, although I am disappointed that I couldn't find the solution.
$$\%w_{m_1}=\frac{m_1}{\rho V}*100\%\Leftrightarrow m_1=\%w_{m_1}\rho V/100\%\\
\%w_{m_2}=\frac{m_2}{\rho V}*100\%=100\%-\%w_{m_1}\Leftrightarrow m_2=(100\%-\%w_{m_1})\rho V/100\%\\
n=\frac{m_1}{M_1}+\frac{m_2}{M_2}=\frac{\rho V}{100\%}\left(\frac{\%w_{m_1}}{M_1}+\frac{100\%-\%w_{m_1}}{M_2}\right)=\frac{PV}{RT}$$
We can then solve for the percent weight.
 

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