Finding n in Hydrogen Atom Excitation with Bohr Model

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The discussion centers on determining the initial and final states of a hydrogen atom that absorbs a photon with a wavelength of 410 nm using the Rydberg equation. Participants confirm that the equation, represented as 1/λ = R_∞(1/n_l² - 1/n_u²), requires guessing values for the quantum numbers n_l and n_u due to the presence of two unknowns. The suggested approach involves testing n_l values starting from 1 and 2 to find a suitable match for n_u. This method, while not elegant, is deemed necessary for solving the problem.

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Homework Statement


A hydrogen atom in an excited state absorbs a photon of wavelength 410 nm. What were the initial and final states of the hydrogen atom.


Homework Equations


Rydberg equation:
\frac{1}{λ}=R_∞(\frac{1}{n{_l}{^2}}-\frac{1}{n{_u}{^2}})


The Attempt at a Solution


Plugging that wavelength into the equation, I still have two unknowns; the lower n and the upper n. Would finding the frequency help? I don't see any equations I could use that would help me find one of those n's.

Thanks
 
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leroyjenkens said:

Homework Statement


A hydrogen atom in an excited state absorbs a photon of wavelength 410 nm. What were the initial and final states of the hydrogen atom.


Homework Equations


Rydberg equation:
\frac{1}{λ}=R_∞(\frac{1}{n{_l}{^2}}-\frac{1}{n{_u}{^2}})


The Attempt at a Solution


Plugging that wavelength into the equation, I still have two unknowns; the lower n and the upper n. Would finding the frequency help? I don't see any equations I could use that would help me find one of those n's.

Thanks

No, you can't find one of those n's. You'll have to guess until you find a good match. Try n1=1 first, figure out why that can't work. Then try n1=2. Then you should be able to find pretty good value of n2 just by guessing. I don't know any other way to play this game.
 
Dick said:
No, you can't find one of those n's. You'll have to guess until you find a good match. Try n1=1 first, figure out why that can't work. Then try n1=2. Then you should be able to find pretty good value of n2 just by guessing. I don't know any other way to play this game.

Oh ok thanks. I thought about guessing, but thought that was a pretty inelegant way to do it, so I assumed there must have been another way. Guess not.

Thanks.
 

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