Discussion Overview
The discussion revolves around finding primitive roots modulo 169, specifically exploring methods and approaches to determine these roots efficiently. Participants share their experiences and insights regarding the calculations involved, as well as the theoretical background related to primitive roots in modular arithmetic.
Discussion Character
- Exploratory
- Technical explanation
- Mathematical reasoning
Main Points Raised
- One participant describes their method for finding primitive roots modulo 13 and expresses uncertainty about how to extend this to modulo 169.
- Another participant suggests that either 2 or 15 could be a primitive root modulo 169 and emphasizes the need to test these values.
- A different participant notes that there is no straightforward method for finding primitive roots and suggests using basic theories along with modular exponentiation for a faster algorithm.
- One participant clarifies that it is unnecessary to check all orders that divide φ(13²) and instead proposes checking specific orders derived from φ(13²) divided by distinct primes.
- Another participant reinforces that since 2 is a primitive root mod 13, it implies that the order of 2 mod 169 is either (13-1) or 13(13-1), leading to a simplified testing process.
Areas of Agreement / Disagreement
Participants express varying methods for finding primitive roots, with some suggesting specific values (2 or 15) while others discuss the theoretical underpinnings and necessary checks. There is no consensus on a singular method or conclusion, indicating multiple competing views remain.
Contextual Notes
Some limitations include the complexity of determining primitive roots and the dependence on the properties of φ(13²). The discussion does not resolve the mathematical steps involved in proving the candidates as primitive roots.