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This discussion focuses on the interpretation and implications of Einstein's equation E=mc², particularly in the context of special relativity. Participants debate the conservation of mass and energy, with references to pair production and nuclear reactions as examples of mass-energy conversion. The conversation emphasizes the distinction between rest mass and total mass, highlighting that while rest mass is not conserved, total mass-energy remains constant in isolated systems. Key resources mentioned include Einstein's 1905 paper and concepts like Lorentz transformations and 4-momentum.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of special relativity principles
  • Familiarity with Einstein's equation E=mc²
  • Knowledge of Lorentz transformations
  • Basic concepts of mass-energy equivalence
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  • Study Einstein's 1905 paper "Does the inertia of a body depend upon its energy content?"
  • Learn about Lorentz transformations and their applications in physics
  • Explore the concept of 4-momentum and its significance in relativistic physics
  • Investigate the processes of pair production and nuclear fission/fusion in detail
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Physicists, students of physics, and anyone interested in the foundational concepts of modern physics, particularly those exploring the implications of special relativity and mass-energy equivalence.

  • #31
There does not seem to be any real 'exact' proof of E = mc2. This was a very good and logical approximation made by Einstein in his 1905 paper "Does the Inertia of a Body depend on its Energy-Content?"

No substantial experimental proof has yet appeared to disprove this, so we must assume this is close to correct (perhaps similar to accepting that Newtonian gravitational theory is close to correct, till we learned better). There is the possibility that there may be additional correction factors with small influence which have not yet been discovered.

I have seen some claims that this has been proved 'exactly' later on, using 4-vectors etc. in GR, but from what I can make out, those depend ultimately on the assumption of correctness of this equation itself.

I am no real expert in relativity theory, so the above is based on my limited knowledge and understanding.
 
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  • #32
Neandethal00 said:
Then we have an interpretation problem with special relativity.
Usually we say, 'one reason speed faster than light is not possible is mass of the
object will become so high it would require all energy of the universe to move'.
This statement then is not correct. The actual mass the energy would work on
is always the rest mass, increased mass is just its energy.
You just need to argue in terms of energy instead of mass. As I hinted in the tiny footnote to my last post, the correct relativistic formula for kinetic energy isn't \tfrac{1}{2}mv^2, it is really<br /> mc^2 \left( \frac{1}{\sqrt{1 - \frac{v^2}{c^2}}} - 1 \right)<br />where m is rest mass, which approximates to \tfrac{1}{2}mv^2 when (v/c) is very small. So an object with non-zero rest mass would have infinite kinetic energy if it could travel at the speed of light -- impossible.
 
  • #33
Neandethal00 said:
For example, mass of the moon we use for gravitational pull may not be its rest mass, but rest mass + energy from its motion.

Gravitational mass of a moving body does not necessarily be equal to its inertial mass. The weak equivalence principle is limited to bodies at rest.
 
  • #35


Neandethal00 said:
No, nuclear fission does not convert mass into energy.
It releases binding energy of a nucleus.

To me so far, E=mc2 is a conversion factor.
Conversion of Kg into Joules.

ok so nuclear reactions don't produce something from nothing but they however converting the electron positron pairs from neutrons that is something that resides in nucleus and the relation e=mc^2 is just a conversion factor to judge the energy of a body...! can i say this by summing all..??
 
  • #36
Neandethal00 said:
Here is a dumb thought.
Say, I have a ball in my hand of mass 1 Kg.
I throw it with speed 20m/sec.
Its kinetic energy is 200J. Mass equivalent of this energy is
2.22x10-15 Kg.
Can we say mass of the ball is increased by 2.22x10-15 Kg.
In another words, mass of the moving ball is 1+2.22x10-15Kg, and it will act like a ball of mass 1+2.22x10-15Kg.
Is this the mass increase we see in special relativity caused by speed?
In such case, it is not a physical increase of mass at all.
A.

oh yes that i was asking all along..! that i want to point..as if how one could explain such conversion...??
 

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