Finding Radius of Convergence for Series: n/2^n and 1/(4+(-1)^n)^3n

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The discussion revolves around finding the radius of convergence for two series: $\sum_{n=0}^{\infty}\frac{n}{2^n}x^{n^2}$ and $\sum_{n=0}^{\infty}\frac{1}{(4+(-1)^n)^{3n}}(x-1)^{3n}$. Participants explore the application of the ratio test and other convergence criteria, addressing the complexities introduced by the non-standard powers of $x$ in the series.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation, Debate/contested, Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant calculates the radius of convergence for the first series as $2$ using the ratio test, but questions how to proceed for boundary cases.
  • Another participant suggests that the ratio test was applied incorrectly, indicating that the limit should be evaluated as $\lim_{n \to \infty} \left| \frac{a_{n+1}}{a_n} \right|$ instead of $\lim_{n \to \infty} \left| \frac{a_n}{a_{n+1}} \right|$.
  • A later reply reiterates the concern about the ratio test application and proposes that the correct formulation involves the limit of the ratio of the $(n+1)$th term to the $n$th term.
  • Another participant notes that the series are not simple power series due to the powers of $x$ being $n^2$ and $3n$, suggesting a more general approach to the ratio test.
  • For the second series, it is proposed to analyze even and odd terms separately, as they yield different limits for convergence.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express disagreement regarding the correct application of the ratio test, with multiple interpretations of how to evaluate the limits for convergence. The discussion remains unresolved as no consensus is reached on the correct method or results.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the complications arising from the non-standard powers of $x$ in the series, which may affect the application of standard convergence tests. There are also unresolved questions about the convergence at the boundaries of the calculated radii.

mathmari
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Hey! :o

I want to find for the following series the radius of convergence and the set of $x\in \mathbb{R}$ in which the series converges.

  1. $\displaystyle{\sum_{n=0}^{\infty}\frac{n}{2^n}x^{n^2}}$
  2. $\displaystyle{\sum_{n=0}^{\infty}\frac{1}{(4+(-1)^n)^{3n}}(x-1)^{3n}}$
I have done the following:

  1. $a_n=\frac{n}{2^n}$
    $$|\frac{a_n}{a_{n+1}}|=\frac{n2^{n+1}}{(n+1)2^n}=\frac{2n}{n+1}=\frac{2}{1+\frac{1}{n}}$$
    So, $$R=\lim_{n\rightarrow \infty}|\frac{a_n}{a_{n+1}}|=\lim_{n\rightarrow \infty}\frac{2}{1+\frac{1}{n}}=2$$
    The radius of convergence is $2$. The series converges at $|x|<2$ and diverges at $|x|>2$.
    For $x=\pm 2$ we have the following:
    $$\sum_{n=0}^{\infty}\frac{n}{2^n}(\pm 2)^{n^2}$$
    How could we continue?
  2. $a_n=\frac{1}{(4+(-1)^n)^{3n}}$
    $$\sqrt[n]{|a_n|}=\sqrt[n]{\frac{1}{(4+(-1)^n)^{3n}}}=\frac{1}{(4+(-1)^n)^3}$$
    For $n=2k$ : $$\lim_{k\rightarrow \infty}\frac{1}{(4+(-1)^{2k})^3}=\frac{1}{5^3}$$
    For $n=2k+1$ : $$\lim_{k\rightarrow \infty}\frac{1}{(4+(-1)^{2k+1})^3}=\frac{1}{3^3}$$
    So, $\frac{1}{R}=\lim\sup\sqrt[n]{|a_n|}=\frac{1}{3^3}$.
    The radius of convergence is $3^3=27$. The series converges at $|x|<27$ and diverges at $|x|>27$.
    For $x=27$ we have the following:
    $$\sum_{n=0}^{\infty}\frac{1}{(4+(-1)^n)^{3n}26^{3n}}$$ How could we check if the series converges? (Wondering)
    For $x=-27$ we have the following:
    $$\sum_{n=0}^{\infty}\frac{1}{(4+(-1)^n)^{3n}(-28)^{3n}}=\sum_{n=0}^{\infty}\frac{1}{(4+(-1)^n)^{3n}28^{3n}(-1)^n}$$ Is this an alternating series? Do we use here the Leibniz criterium? (Wondering)
 
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You have the ratio test wrong. It's actually $\displaystyle \begin{align*} \lim_{n \to \infty} \left| \frac{a_{n+1}}{a_n} \right| \end{align*}$ that you need to evaluate.
 
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You have the ratio test wrong. It's actually $\displaystyle \begin{align*} \lim_{n \to \infty} \left| \frac{a_{n+1}}{a_n} \right| \end{align*}$ that you need to evaluate.

Then we would have $\displaystyle \begin{align*} \frac{1}{R}=\lim_{n \to \infty} \left| \frac{a_{n+1}}{a_n} \right| \end{align*}$ or not? (Wondering)
 
mathmari said:
I want to find for the following series the radius of convergence and the set of $x\in \mathbb{R}$ in which the series converges.

  1. $\displaystyle{\sum_{n=0}^{\infty}\frac{n}{2^n}x^{n^2}}$
  2. $\displaystyle{\sum_{n=0}^{\infty}\frac{1}{(4+(-1)^n)^{3n}}(x-1)^{3n}}$
For a simple power series $\sum a_nx^n$ the radius of convergence is given by $\frac1R = \lim_{n\to\infty}\Bigl|\frac{a_{n+1}}{a_n}\Bigr|$ (provided that limit exists). But these are not simple power series, because the power of $x$ is not $n$, but $n^2$ in 1., and $3n$ in 2. In 2., there is the additional complication that the variable is not $x$, but $x-1$.

So to answer these questions you need to go back to the more general form of the ratio test, which says that a series converges if the limit as $n\to\infty$ of the ratio of the $(n+1)$th term to the $n$th term is less than $1$, and it diverges if that limit is greater than $1$.

For problem 1., that ratio is $\left|\dfrac{\frac{(n+1)x^{(n+1)^2}}{2^{n+1}}}{\frac{nx^{n^2}}{2^n}}\right| = \Bigl|\dfrac{(n+1)x^{2n+1}}{2n}\Bigr|.$

For problem 2., you would do best to look at the even-numbered and odd-numbered terms separately. If $n$ is even then the $n$th term is $\Bigl(\dfrac{x-1}5\Bigr)^{3n}.$ If $n$ is odd then it is $\Bigl(\dfrac{x-1}3\Bigr)^{3n}.$
 
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