Finding the Cross Product in R2: How is it Different from R3?

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The discussion revolves around finding the cross product of two vectors in R2, contrasting it with the process in R3. Participants explore the implications of dimensionality on the nature of the cross product.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Mixed

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the definition and calculation of the cross product in R2, noting that it results in a scalar rather than a vector. There are attempts to relate the concept to R3 by considering the vectors as lying in a plane and exploring the implications of dimensionality.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided insights into the nature of the cross product in different dimensions, with varying interpretations of whether the result in R2 can be considered a vector. The conversation reflects a mix of agreement and differing viewpoints, with no clear consensus reached.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention the vectors involved and their components, but there is a general acknowledgment that the specific values may not be crucial to the broader discussion of the cross product's properties in different dimensions.

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How do you find the cross product when you are given two vectors in R2? i know how to do it for R3
 
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heres the two vectors btw, not that its really important since the general rules for finding the cross product should be the same for all vectors

Two vectors are given by a= 3.0 iˆ + 5.0 ˆj and
b = 2.0 iˆ + 4.0 ˆj
 
any two vectors given to you in R3 creates a plane. You can then rotate the whole system so that the two vectors now lie in the xy plane. the cross product of that will be in the z direction. So what I'm trying tell you is that the cross product vector is still in the R3 plane. Just treat it like its in R3.
 
The cross product in 2d is a scalar, not a vector.

[tex]\vec{u}\times \vec{v} = \det(\vec{u}\vec{v}) = \det\begin{pmatrix} u_x & v_x \\ u_y & v_y \end{pmatrix} = u_x v_y - u_y v_x.[/tex]
 
cheers guys, sorted
 
Essentially, you take the "z" coordinate of each vector to be 0. I "kind of, sort of" disagree with fzero. I would say that the cross product of two vectors in a two dimensional plane, is a vector but, since the cross product of two vectors is perpendicular to both, the cross product of two vectors in the xy-plane will NOT be in that plane. It will be perpendicular to the plane. Of course, then only the length is important which is the number fzero gives.
 

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