Finding the Density of a Duck Floating on a Lake

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The problem involves determining the average density of a duck that is floating on a lake, specifically with 28% of its volume submerged. The context centers around buoyancy and the relationship between density, volume, and mass.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the relationship between the buoyant force and the weight of the duck, questioning how to express the weight in terms of density and volume. There are attempts to set up equations based on the given percentage of volume submerged and the density of water.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing algebraic expressions and questioning each other's reasoning. Some guidance has been offered regarding the importance of maintaining clarity in algebraic manipulation, but no consensus has been reached on the final approach.

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Assumptions include treating the volume of the duck as a constant for the purpose of the calculations, and the discussion includes considerations of the effects of gravity on the weight of the duck and the buoyant force.

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A duck is floating on a lake with 28% of its volume beneath the water. What is the average density of the duck?
This question seems pretty straight froward I realize ultimately that in order to find the answer the duck density= duck mass/duck V. If it is 28% I am assuming that should equal .28V and I know I need to use the formula for buoyant force FB=Weight of fluid=density of fluid x Volume of fluid x g I can plug in the density of fluid but I am not sure how to find all of the other variables having only been given a percentage of the Volume.
 
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You said that the bouyancy force is equal to the the weight of water displaced. So what is the force oppossing this?

i.e. Can you write the weight of the duck in terms of it's density and volume?

Regards,
Sam
 
I think its W= density .28V x 9.8
 
Lets say the volume of the duck is one(this assumption won't change anything since the density of the duck doesn't depend on its mass, it will sink 28% of its volume no matter what its volume is). then the volume beneath water is 28/100. The mass of the duck times g will be equal to the density of water times 28/100 times g.

[tex]M\times{9.8} = d_{w}\times{0.28}\times{9.8}[/tex]

Now, the volume is [tex]\frac{M}{V} = M[/tex]
 
MKM said:
I think its W= density .28V x 9.8

Almost, its whole mass is going to give it weight, think about your V term.
Tip: Always write algebra until the end, just in case things cancel (especially g). :wink:

So you have:

[tex]W=?=Bouyancy=\rho_{watter}V_{water}g[/tex]

You also know:
[tex]V_{water}=0.28V_{duck}[/tex]

dx said:
Now, the volume is
[tex]\frac{M}{V}=M[/tex]

Surely a typo !??

Regards,
Sam
 
Can you take it from here?
 

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