Finding the equation of a graph with asymptotes (help please)

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The discussion revolves around finding the equation of a rational function given its vertical and horizontal asymptotes, as well as specific points on the graph. The original poster presents a problem involving a rational function with vertical asymptotes at x=2 and x=6, and a horizontal asymptote at y=-2. They are tasked with selecting the correct form of the function from a list of options and writing the corresponding equation.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to eliminate options based on the asymptotic behavior and the given points. They express uncertainty in determining the correct equation after narrowing down to option D. Other participants question the validity of the original poster's reasoning and suggest that the set of equations derived from the points may be overdetermined. There is also a discussion about the implications of having similar factors in the numerator and denominator.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the problem and questioning the assumptions made by the original poster. Some guidance has been offered regarding the need for additional equations to determine constants, but no consensus has been reached on the correct approach or solution.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the original poster may lack familiarity with limits, which could be crucial for understanding the behavior of the function at infinity. There is also mention of the challenges faced in an online pre-calculus course, which may affect the original poster's comprehension of the concepts involved.

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Homework Statement



This is the question:

Shown in the figure below is the graph of a rational function with vertical asymptotes x=2, x=6, and horizontal asymptote y= -2 . (All x-intercepts of the graph of f are also shown, and a point on the graph is indicated.) The equation for f(x) has one of the five forms shown below. Choose the appropriate form for f(x) , and then write the equation.

I can't get the graph on but point are at (-4,0); (0,2); (3,0).



Homework Equations



The answers choices are:

A) f(x)= a / x-b

B) f(x)= a(x-b) / x-c

C) f(x)= a / (x-b)(x-c)

D) f(x)= a(x-b) / (x-c)(x-d)

E) f(x)= a(x-b)(x-c) / (x-d)(x-e)



The Attempt at a Solution



What I first did was try and get rid of equations that couldn't possible work. So I knew I had vertical asymptotes at x=2,6. I had two asymptotes so I knew that options A and B couldn't work. I then got rid of option C because dividing a by x to get my horizontal asymptote would not give me y= -2 it would give me y=0. I then got rid of option E by factoring the top part through. Since having ax^2 as my leading coificent would give me a diagonal asymptote I got rid of it. So I got D as my answer but then I have to find the equation. So I got (x-2)(x-6) for the bottom because those would give me vertical asymptotes at x=2,6 But I don't know how to find the top. I got -2(x-12) divided by (x-2)(x-6) because sticking 0 in for x would give me 2. So I had the point (0,2) but I can't get any of the others to match up. I'm not sure how to figure it out.
 
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You are right, that the other points don't match up. To put it in a mathematical way: the set of equations for a, b, c... you get from plugging in the points is overdetermined and does not have a solution. Therefore D is wrong.

I think your argument for getting rid of F is not entirely correct. You are saying, that your leading behaviour is ~ x^2. However, you also have something ~ x^2 in the denominator.
Did you learn to take limits yet? Can you properly calculate
[tex]\lim_{x \to \infty} \frac{a (x - b)(x - c) }{ (x - d)(x - c) }[/tex]

Also note that you will need all the points to determine the constants. To take your (wrong) example of option D:
if you plug in x = 0 then you get
f(0) = - a b / 12 = 3.
Although you get a relation a = -36 / b, this alone will not allow you to determine a and b, you will need at least one other equation.
 
Does option F really have "(x- c)" in both numerator and denominator? And what happened to option E?
 
HallsofIvy said:
Does option F really have "(x- c)" in both numerator and denominator?
Ah right, I assumed that was a typo and it should be (x - e) in the denominator.

And what happened to option E?
lol that I didn't even notice. :biggrin:
 
No I really don't know how to do limits. We've touched on it a little bit last year. But I am in an online pre-calculus course and the program doesn't really explain things in terms I can understand. The program has never shown me how to do this so I have no idea how to do it. I'm completely confused and lost. I'm slow at learning math so most of the time I need it in the simplest terms possible.
 

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