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Homework Help: Finding the equations of state for a system (entropy)

  1. Aug 18, 2013 #1
    1. The problem statement, all variables and given/known data

    Suppose the entropy of a system is given by the relation:

    S(E,V,N) = a(E,V,N)^(1/3)

    Determine three equations of state for this system

    2. Relevant equations

    there were no equations given on the sheet but i'm assuming that this might help.

    dS=(1/T)*dE+(p/T)*dV+Ʃμ*dN for a quasistatic process

    3. The attempt at a solution

    So with this, i was trying to determine the partial derivative of the function a(E,V,N)^(1/3). Similar to the way we can find:


    through partial differentials for S(E,V,N). The only problem is finding the partial differential when there's a power of 1/3 involved. How do i go about obtaining a result like the one above? Also, do i relate it to the equation dS to obtain the equations of state, or am i looking in the wrong direction?

    Thanks for all the help everyone.
    1. The problem statement, all variables and given/known data

    2. Relevant equations

    3. The attempt at a solution
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  3. Aug 18, 2013 #2


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    I think you're on the right track. Use the chain rule. For example, ∂S/∂E =( dS/da)(∂a/∂E)
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