Finding the force from two charged rods one beside the other.

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The problem involves determining the electric force between two uniformly charged rods positioned parallel to each other. Each rod has a charge Q distributed uniformly and a length of 2x, with their centers separated by a distance d.

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  • Participants discuss the need to find the electric field generated by one rod and how it influences the other rod. There are attempts to set up the electric field equations and integrate over the lengths of the rods, but uncertainty remains regarding the integration process and the relationship between electric field and force.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different aspects of the problem. Some guidance has been provided on how to approach the calculation of the electric field and its effect on the second rod, but there is still confusion about the integration steps and the variables involved.

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Participants are grappling with the integration of electric fields and the implications of charge distribution, as well as the setup of the problem in terms of distances and forces acting on the rods.

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Homework Statement



The problem is to find the electric force between two rods one beside the other. a charge of Q is distributed over the rods uniformly each of length 2x. The centre of each rod is d from the others centre.




-----Rod 1------- ------Rod 2-------

Homework Equations



F= \frac{qq}{Kr^2}

Efield= \frac{q}{Kr^2}

The Attempt at a Solution



I know I am supposed to find the electric field over the whole distance then integrate the the length of one rod (I think) but I don't understand at all why this work

I would set the electric field up by

dq = Q/2x (Charge density) * dx

E= dq/(Kr^2) I think. then I am not even sure if I did that right and I think I'm supposed to integrate this over the length of 1 of the rods but I don't understand how that gives you force. Any help would be appreciated thanks!
 
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You need to find the electric field of a rod at an arbitrary location along its axis (outside itself). Then you need to consider how that field acts on another rod. You can do that by considering how it acts on each particle of the other rod - what is the net force then?
 
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You need to find the electric field of a rod at an arbitrary location along its axis (outside itself). Then you need to consider how that field acts on another rod. You can do that by considering how it acts on each particle of the other rod - what is the net force then?

ok at an arbitrary distance outside of the first rod would would be "d" then integrate with respect for dx for the length of the first rod. What I don't get is how to do the second integral, what do we integrate with respect to? The distance "d" to the second rod? or do we just keep d and do the integral with respect to the length of the second rod?
 
At any given point of the second rod, the electric fields of the first rod (found with the first integral) exerts a force on the second rod.
 

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