Finding the forces between two masses

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The discussion focuses on calculating the internal forces between two masses, specifically M1 and M3, using Newton's laws of motion. The net force acting on the system is determined to be 3N, leading to an acceleration of 0.143 m/s² for the entire system. To find the forces that M3 exerts on M1 and vice versa, participants emphasize the importance of drawing free body diagrams (FBD) for each block separately. This approach simplifies the setup of equations of motion and clarifies the interactions between the masses.

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Homework Statement



Here is the problem with the picture

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Homework Equations



F=ma

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I drew the free body diagrams for each block. Basically I am solving for FM1 on FM3 and FM3 on FM1 (I know that they are equal). I figured that the Net Force is 3N so i can solve for the acceleration of the block, 3N=21kg x a...a=0.143m/s^2

Im kind of stuck now, i have the net force and the acceleration of the whole system but i cannot figure out the force that M3 acts on M1 and vice versa
 
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Hi, you need to find out the internal forces, so equating net force on the system as a whole to the total mass x acceleration won't help. Set up the FBD for each block separately and then it will be easier to set up the equations of motion. for example, force on the block m1 is F1 to the right and F31 (force exerted by the m3 on m1) to the left. and m1g downwards and N1 (normal reaction) upwards. there is no friction between the ground and the block m1. set up similar FBD's for other two blocks
 

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