Finding the launch velocity of a point charge in a e-field

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The discussion revolves around determining the launch velocity of a point charge in an electric field created by a linear charge density. Participants are exploring the relationships between electric fields, acceleration, and kinematics in the context of point charges and their motion.

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  • Participants are attempting to calculate the electric field and acceleration of a point charge, questioning the assumptions regarding the setup and the nature of the problem. There are discussions about the direction of the initial velocity and its relation to circular motion.

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Some participants have provided clarifications on the nature of the problem and the relationships between the electric field and acceleration. There is ongoing exploration of the correct interpretation of the motion involved, with no explicit consensus reached yet.

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There are indications of confusion regarding the problem statement and the assumptions about the point charges' positions and velocities. Participants are also addressing potential typos and clarifying the equations used in their calculations.

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Homework Statement
Consider a long line of charge with linear charge density λ=4μC/m
There is a point charge mass 0.1kg, q= −2μC at coordinate (-2,0) at t=0.
A point charge is then launched into the paper.
What is the launch velocity so point charge can reach coordinate (-2,0)?
Relevant Equations
##E=\frac{\lambda}{2\pi r\epsilon_{0}}##
##a= \frac{\epsilon_{0} q}{m}##
I'm not sure how to proceed with this, but here are my findings/hypothesis:

First we find the electric field contributed by the plate with ##E=\frac{\lambda}{2\pi r\epsilon_{0}}## where r=2?

After finding out the electric field, is it safe to assume I can find the acceleration of the point charge using ##a= \frac{\epsilon_{0} q}{m}##? What do I do to the charge of the particle then? Am I calculating the wrong thing? Should I instead be calculating something else?

After finding out the acceleration, I am then supposed to find the initial velocity, which can be explained using kinematics equation am I right?

Please advice. Thank you.

Diagram as follows:

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I fail to understand the statement of the problem even though a figure is provided (and if it wasn't that I wouldn't understand a simple thing, lol)

Is there a point charge at (-2,0) and we want to find with what velocity(I suppose the minimum) we have to launch another point charge from 2,0 so that it reaches the point charge located at -2,0?

OR

The minimum launch velocity of the point charge at -2,0 such that it reaches point 2,0 (assume it can pass through the linear charge density at the y axis)?

OR something else which I don't understand?
 
I think there is only one point charge. It is given an initial velocity directed perpendicular to the plane of the drawing.
 
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Thanks @TSny now it all makes sense.
 
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The key thing to understand here is that the acceleration of the E-field is in the radial direction and it can act as centripetal acceleration for circular motion (with the plane of the circular motion perpendicular to y-axis).

You are doing fine calculating the E-field at r=2 and the acceleration at r=2.

What must be the magnitude of the initial velocity such that the acceleration acts as centripetal acceleration?
 
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jisbon said:
After finding out the electric field, is it safe to assume I can find the acceleration of the point charge using ##a= \frac{\epsilon_{0} q}{m}##?
In this equation for the acceleration, the ##\epsilon_0## should be replaced by what quantity?
 
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TSny said:
I think there is only one point charge. It is given an initial velocity directed perpendicular to the plane of the drawing.
Yep, thanks for explaining :)
Delta2 said:
The key thing to understand here is that the acceleration of the E-field is in the radial direction and it can act as centripetal acceleration for circular motion (with the plane of the circular motion perpendicular to y-axis).

You are doing fine calculating the E-field at r=2 and the acceleration at r=2.

What must be the magnitude of the initial velocity such that the acceleration acts as centripetal acceleration?
Pardon me, but when you mean circular I suppose it's something like this?
**SIDE VIEW** (Since the charge is launched into the plane)
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##E=\frac{\lambda}{2\pi r\epsilon_{0}} = \frac{4*10^{-6}}{2\pi(2)(8.85*10^{-12})} = 35967.2187##
##a= \frac{E q}{m} = \frac{(35967.2187) (-2*10^{-6})}{0.1} = -0.719344374##
##a= \frac{v^2}{r} ##
##v = 1.20m/s##

Woops, I got it haha. Thanks so much :D

TSny said:
In this equation for the acceleration, the ##\epsilon_0## should be replaced by what quantity?
Oh that was a typo, supposed to be E. My bad :/
 
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jisbon said:
Pardon me, but when you mean circular I suppose it's something like this?
**SIDE VIEW** (Since the charge is launched into the plane)
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I think you still do not have the right picture.
Change the rectangle to a dot, representing a line of charge normal to the plane of your drawing, and make the trajectory semicircular.
 

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