Finding the magnetic field at a point

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The discussion revolves around finding the magnetic field at a point P located between two infinitely long wires carrying current in opposite directions. Participants are exploring the implications of current direction on the resulting magnetic field.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are questioning the net magnetic field's direction and magnitude, with some suggesting it may cancel out due to opposite currents. Others are prompted to consider the magnetic field direction relative to the current flow and the position of point P.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants providing insights into the magnetic field's behavior based on the configuration of the wires. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of Ampere's right-hand rule and the Bio-Savart law, indicating a productive exploration of the topic.

Contextual Notes

There is some confusion regarding the spatial arrangement of the wires and point P, with clarifications being made about their parallel alignment in the same plane. This detail is crucial for understanding the magnetic field interactions.

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Homework Statement


Find the magnetic field at point P.
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(P is at the centre of two infinitely long wires, carrying current in opposite direction.

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The Attempt at a Solution


My guess is that since the current direction is opposite and distance between the point and the wires is same, net magnetic field at P is 0. Bust my book says that both the magnetic field direction is same, and hence net B will be the sum of B produced by the individual wires. Please help me out.
 

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subhradeep mahata said:

Homework Statement


Find the magnetic field at point P.
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(P is at the centre of two infinitely long wires, carrying current in opposite direction.

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution


My guess is that since the current direction is opposite and distance between the point and the wires is same, net magnetic field at P is 0. Bust my book says that both the magnetic field direction is same, and hence net B will be the sum of B produced by the individual wires. Please help me out.

You need to think about the direction of the magnetic fields, not just the magnitudes.
 
Since, the direction of current is opposite, won't the B be equal and opposite and cancel out?
 
subhradeep mahata said:
Since, the direction of current is opposite, won't the B be equal and opposite and cancel out?

You need to think a little harder about the field direction. It circles around each wire. The point is below one wire and above the other.
 
Sir I think you did not get the diagram. The two wires are parallel to each other, and lying in the same plane, with the point P in between them.
The wires are not above or below.
 
subhradeep mahata said:
Sir I think you did not get the diagram. The two wires are parallel to each other, and lying in the same plane, with the point P in between them.
The wires are not above or below.

I get the diagram. Just picture the plane as vertical. Do you know about Ampere's right hand rule for determining the field direction?
 
Yes, I know it. But I want to find it out using Bio-Savart's law.
 
subhradeep mahata said:
Yes, I know it. But I want to find it out using Bio-Savart's law.

That's fine. So ##\vec {dL}## and ##\vec r## have the same magnitude for each wire. How do their directions compare?
 
One should be inside and other should be outside the plane of paper.
 
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subhradeep mahata said:
One should be inside and other should be outside the plane of paper.

That's not very clear. I think you would agree that that ##\vec {dL_1} = -\vec {dL_2}## (where the numbers indicate the two wires) just because the wires are parallel and the current flow is in opposite directions. What's the relation between ##\vec r_1## and ##\vec r_2##?
 
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r1 vector = -r2 vector, i suppose
 
  • #12
subhradeep mahata said:
r1 vector = -r2 vector, i suppose

Right. That's what I meant by 'above' and 'below'. So what about the cross product and the magnetic field?
 
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So the B will be in the same direction.
I get it now.
Thanks.
 

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