Finding the mass of stars that evolved away.

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The discussion revolves around determining the mass of stars in the Pleiades open cluster that have evolved from the main sequence to red giants, considering the cluster's age of approximately 100 million years.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • Participants are exploring how to relate the age of stars to their mass and luminosity, questioning whether a derivation of relationships is necessary or if known formulas can be applied. There is also inquiry into the relevance of luminosity in the context of the problem.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants sharing resources and seeking clarification on the relationships between mass, age, and luminosity of stars. Some guidance has been provided through external links, but no consensus has been reached regarding the approach to take.

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Participants mention that they are working with limited information and are unsure if they need to derive relationships or can rely on existing formulas. There is also a reference to the need for specific parameters, such as the temperature and mass of the sun, to normalize relations.

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If the stars in the Pleiades open cluster are about 100*10^6 years old, how do I find the mass of the stars that evolved away from the main sequence to form red giants? Any suggestions or comments are welcome!

Thanks!
 
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Toad said:
If the stars in the Pleiades open cluster are about 100*10^6 years old, how do I find the mass of the stars that evolved away from the main sequence to form red giants? Any suggestions or comments are welcome!

What are you working from? Do they expect you to derive a relationship between mass and lifetime or just to know it?
 
SpaceTiger said:
What are you working from? Do they expect you to derive a relationship between mass and lifetime or just to know it?
The information I posted above is all I've been given. If there are common formulas for this available, I suppose I don't need to derive them.

Thanks!
 
Toad said:
The information I posted above is all I've been given. If there are common formulas for this available, I suppose I don't need to derive them.

See if this page helps:

http://scienceworld.wolfram.com/astronomy/MainSequence.html"
 
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Thanks for that page. Is there some way to relate the age of the star to its luminosity? Do I need to do that?

Thanks!
 
Toad said:
Thanks for that page. Is there some way to relate the age of the star to its luminosity? Do I need to do that?

Does the problem ask for a luminosity?

Do yiou know how to normalize the relation I gave -- that is, do you know the temperature and mass of the sun?
 

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