Finding the momentum of the each balls

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The discussion revolves around two physics problems involving momentum and energy conservation. The first problem concerns the total momentum of a baseball and a tennis ball moving in different directions. The second problem involves a bullet fired into a ballistic pendulum, requiring calculations of height and kinetic energy.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the definition of total momentum and question the validity of calculated values. There are attempts to relate kinetic energy before and after the collision and to understand the conservation of mechanical energy.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problems, offering guidance and questioning assumptions. Some have provided insights into the relationships between kinetic energy and potential energy, while others express confusion about specific calculations and concepts.

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There are indications of uncertainty regarding the calculations of momentum and energy, with participants questioning the appropriateness of their approaches and the assumptions made in the problems.

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Homework Statement


There are two questions.

1) A baseball, m=0.045 kg, moves in +y-direction with v = 5 m/s. a tennisball is moving in the -x direction with speed of 2m/s. Wat is the magnitude and direction of total momentum in the system?

2) A 0.01 kg rifle bullet is fired with v = 500 m/s into a ballistic pendulum of mass 5 kg suspended from a cord 0.6 m long. Find the height of the pendulum, the initial kinetic energy of the bullet and the kinetic energy of the bullet and pendulum.

The Attempt at a Solution




1) I have no idea, beside finding the momentum of the each balls.

2) I tried using p_bullet + p_pendulum = (m_bullet + m_pendulum)u, but I get u = 0,998 m/s, which i believe is incorrect.
 
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1. Look up the definition of the total momentum of a system (of particles).

2. Why do you believe it is incorrect?
 
1) great, will do!

2) It seems very small. Must I use that KE_bullet = KE_bullet_and_pendulum?
 
Niles said:
1) great, will do!

2) It seems very small. Must I use that KE_bullet = KE_bullet_and_pendulum?

If I do what I wrote in about KE, I get that v_(pendulum and bullet) = 22,34 m/s. But when using p_1 = p_2, I get v = 0,9980 m/s. How is this?
 
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Niles said:
2) It seems very small. Must I use that KE_bullet = KE_bullet_and_pendulum?

Think potential energy. EDIT: For the KE of bullet+pendulum: You have figured out the velocity of the two together. Now given the velocity and mass, find KE.
 
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neutrino said:
Think potential energy.


EDIT: For the KE of bullet+pendulum: You have figured out the velocity of the two together. Now given the velocity and mass, find KE.

So KE_bullet = PE_(bullet and pendulum), and from there i find the height.

I'm sorry, but I don't get the last thing you wrote.
 
Niles said:
So KE_bullet = PE_(bullet and pendulum), and from there i find the height.

Forget about the KE of the bullet...some of it is lost when it hits the block. But mechanical energy is conserved after the bullet embeds itself in the block.


I'm sorry, but I don't get the last thing you wrote.

Just said in a round-about way that KE = 0.5mv2 :wink: You know the mass of the bullet+pendulum, and you have figured out its (initial) velocity. (Although, the question doesn't mention it, I'm assuming that it is initial KE that is to be found)
 
Great, thanks!
 

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