Finding the orthogonal projection of a vector without an orthogonal basis

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The discussion revolves around the problem of finding the orthogonal projection of a vector onto a subspace in Euclidean spaces, particularly when the basis vectors of the subspace are not orthogonal. Participants explore the conditions under which the projection can be characterized using inner products.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents a result regarding the orthogonal projection onto a subspace spanned by non-orthogonal vectors and seeks assistance in proving it.
  • Another participant suggests that the condition of the inner product being zero for all basis vectors implies that the difference between the vector and its projection lies in the orthogonal complement of the subspace.
  • A later reply emphasizes the utility of the Gram-Schmidt process to orthogonalize the basis vectors without changing the span of the subspace.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the proof of the projection result, with some agreeing on the implications of the inner product conditions while others suggest alternative methods like Gram-Schmidt for handling non-orthogonal bases. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the proof of the original claim.

Contextual Notes

The discussion does not resolve the assumptions required for the equivalence presented in the original post, nor does it clarify the implications of using Gram-Schmidt in this context.

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Hi there,

I am currently reading a course on euclidian spaces and I came across this result that I am struggling to prove :

Let ##F## be a subspace of ##E## (of finite dimension) such that ##F=span(e_1, e_2, ..., e_p)## (not necessarily an orthogonal family of vectors), let ##x \in E##

Then we have:

##\forall y \in F## : ##y=p_F(x) \Leftrightarrow \forall i= 1,...,p : (x-y,e_i) = 0##

where ##(.,.)## denotes an inner product
and the linear map ##p_F## is the orthogonal projection onto ##F##.

I managed to prove the equivalence only when the family of the vectors ##(e_i)## is orthogonal but the result is more general.

Thank you and I would appreciate any hint or help.
 
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The inner product ##(x-y,e_i)## is zero for all ##i## if and only if ##x-y\in F^\perp## if and only if ##x## is of the form ##x=y+z## where ##z\in F^{\perp}## if and only if ##y## is the orthogonal projection of ##x## onto ##F##.

Your post was a bit of effort to read- it would be better to use latex.
 
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Thank you for your reply, it's much clearer now. I just modified my post using Latex code.
 
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OP: Notice you can always use Gram-Schmidt to orthogonalize your basis vectors, and this won't affect the span .
 
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