Finding the Range of Rational Inequalities: An Algebraic Approach

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The discussion revolves around finding the range of the rational inequality \(\frac{4 - 4x^2}{(x^2 + 1)^2} > 0\) using algebraic methods. Participants explore the conditions under which the inequality holds, the meaning of "range" in the context of inequalities versus functions, and the implications of solving the inequality.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that to determine when the fraction is positive, one must analyze both the numerator and denominator, noting that the denominator is always positive.
  • There is a question about whether to set the numerator equal to zero or greater than zero to find the range of \(x\).
  • One participant clarifies that multiplying the inequality by the positive denominator does not change the inequality's direction, leading to the simplified inequality \(4 - 4x^2 > 0\).
  • Another participant questions the use of the term "range" in the context of an inequality, suggesting it typically refers to the set of values of a function.
  • Some participants reference an external source that claims the domain is \((- \infty, \infty)\) and the range is \([-1/2, 4]\), prompting inquiries about the correctness and derivation of this range.
  • Further mathematical exploration is presented to derive the range based on the function \(f(x) = \frac{4 - 4x^2}{(x^2 + 1)^2}\), leading to conditions for \(f\) based on inequalities.
  • There is a recognition that the original problem posed may differ from the problem of finding the range of the function itself.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the interpretation of "range" in the context of inequalities versus functions. While some agree on the method to solve the inequality, there is no consensus on the definition of range or the correctness of the external claims regarding the range.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the discussion involves assumptions about the positivity of the denominator and the implications of multiplying inequalities. The distinction between the range of a function and the solution set of an inequality remains a point of contention.

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How do I find the range of [(4 - 4x^2)/(x^2 + 1)^2] > 0 algebraically?

Do I set the numerator to 0 and solve for x?

Do I set the denominator to 0 and solve for x?
 
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You want that the fraction is greater than zero.

A fraction is positive either when both numerator and denominator are positive or when both are negative.

In this case the denominator is positive for each $x$. So, you have to find for which values of $x$ the numerator is also positive.
 
mathmari said:
You want that the fraction is greater than zero.

A fraction is positive either when both numerator and denominator are positive or when both are negative.

In this case the denominator is positive for each $x$. So, you have to find for which values of $x$ the numerator is also positive.

Are you saying to find the range I must set the numerator to = 0 or do I set the numerator > 0 and then solve for x?
 
RTCNTC said:
Are you saying to find the range I must set the numerator to = 0 or do I set the numerator > 0 and then solve for x?

We want to find the values of $x$ that satisfy the inquality $\frac{4 - 4x^2}{(x^2 + 1)^2} > 0$.

When we multiply both sides of an inequality by a negative number, the direction of the inequality changes ("<" becomes ">" for example).

In this case $(x^2 + 1)^2$ is always positive. So, multiplying the inequality by $(x^2 + 1)^2$ the direction of inequality does not change.

So, we have the following: \begin{align*}&(x^2 + 1)^2\cdot \frac{4 - 4x^2}{(x^2 + 1)^2} > (x^2 + 1)^2\cdot 0 \\ & \Rightarrow 4 - 4x^2> 0 \end{align*}

We have to solve the last inequality for $x$ to find the desired values of $x$.
 
mathmari said:
We want to find the values of $x$ that satisfy the inquality $\frac{4 - 4x^2}{(x^2 + 1)^2} > 0$.

When we multiply both sides of an inequality by a negative number, the direction of the inequality changes ("<" becomes ">" for example).

In this case $(x^2 + 1)^2$ is always positive. So, multiplying the inequality by $(x^2 + 1)^2$ the direction of inequality does not change.

So, we have the following: \begin{align*}&(x^2 + 1)^2\cdot \frac{4 - 4x^2}{(x^2 + 1)^2} > (x^2 + 1)^2\cdot 0 \\ & \Rightarrow 4 - 4x^2> 0 \end{align*}

We have to solve the last inequality for $x$ to find the desired values of $x$.

Are you saying that solving the last inequality for x will yield the range of the original inequality? I am trying to find the range.
 
Okay, then, what do you mean by "range" of a rational inequality? Normally, "range" refers to the set of all values of a function, but an inequality is not a function. Mathmari has told you how to solve the inequality- to find all values of x that satisfy the inequality. Is that what you mean by "range"?
 
HallsofIvy said:
Okay, then, what do you mean by "range" of a rational inequality? Normally, "range" refers to the set of all values of a function, but an inequality is not a function. Mathmari has told you how to solve the inequality- to find all values of x that satisfy the inequality. Is that what you mean by "range"?

Again, I found this question online and posted as typed.

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At another math site, someone responded by saying that the domain is (-infinity, infinity) and the range is [(-1/2), 4].
How is this found? Is this correct? If so, why?
 
RTCNTC said:
...At another math site, someone responded by saying that the domain is (-infinity, infinity) and the range is [(-1/2), 4].
How is this found? Is this correct? If so, why?

Consider:

$$f(x)=\frac{4-4x^2}{\left(x^2+1\right)^2}$$

By looking at the above function definition, we can see that no real values of $x$ can cause $f$ to become undefined or complex, and so we may state that the domain is:

$$(-\infty,\infty)$$

To find the range, let's arrange the definition as follows:

$$fx^4+2(f+2)x^2+(f-4)=0$$

Hence:

$$x^2=\frac{-2(f+2)\pm\sqrt{4(f+2)^2-4f(f-4)}}{2f}=\frac{-(f+2)\pm2\sqrt{2f+1}}{f}$$

Now, we know:

$$0\le x^2$$

Thus:

$$0\le\frac{-(f+2)\pm2\sqrt{2f+1}}{f}$$

If we consider the case where $0<f$, then we must have:

$$f+2\le2\sqrt{2f+1}$$

$$f^2-4f\le0$$

$$f(f-4)\le0$$

So, we find:

$$0<f\le4$$

If we now consider the case where $f<0$, then we observe that the radicand cannot be negative:

$$2f+1\ge0$$

$$f\ge-\frac{1}{2}$$

And so, putting these together, we obtain:

$$-\frac{1}{2}\le f\le4$$
 
MarkFL said:
Consider:

$$f(x)=\frac{4-4x^2}{\left(x^2+1\right)^2}$$

By looking at the above function definition, we can see that no real values of $x$ can cause $f$ to become undefined or complex, and so we may state that the domain is:

$$(-\infty,\infty)$$

To find the range, let's arrange the definition as follows:

$$fx^4+2(f+2)x^2+(f-4)=0$$

Hence:

$$x^2=\frac{-2(f+2)\pm\sqrt{4(f+2)^2-4f(f-4)}}{2f}=\frac{-(f+2)\pm2\sqrt{2f+1}}{f}$$

Now, we know:

$$0\le x^2$$

Thus:

$$0\le\frac{-(f+2)\pm2\sqrt{2f+1}}{f}$$

If we consider the case where $0<f$, then we must have:

$$f+2\le2\sqrt{2f+1}$$

$$f^2-4f\le0$$

$$f(f-4)\le0$$

So, we find:

$$0<f\le4$$

If we now consider the case where $f<0$, then we observe that the radicand cannot be negative:

$$2f+1\ge0$$

$$f\ge-\frac{1}{2}$$

And so, putting these together, we obtain:

$$-\frac{1}{2}\le f\le4$$

You are amazing. Thank you. Thank you also for being patient with me.
 
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Yes, MarkFL is amazing! And do you realize that your problem, as originally stated, to find the range of [(4 - 4x^2)/(x^2 + 1)^2] > 0, is NOT the same as the problem MarkFL solved, finding range of the function, f(x)= [(4 - 4x^2)/(x^2 + 1)^2]?
 
  • #11
HallsofIvy said:
Yes, MarkFL is amazing!...

Aw...shucks. (Blush)(Worried)

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