Finding the Scalar Potential of a Sphere with Non-Uniform Charge Density

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The discussion focuses on calculating the scalar potential of a sphere with a non-uniform charge density that varies with distance from the center. The charge density is expressed as a function of radius, and the scalar potential is derived using the formula Φ(r) = (1/4πε₀) ∫(ρ(r') dτ')/R, where R is the distance from the charge element to the point of interest. The participants emphasize the importance of integrating the contributions from each infinitesimal charge element due to the varying charge density, rather than assuming uniformity. The final expression for the potential must account for the total charge Q and the varying distances of charge elements.

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Homework Statement



A sphere of radius a has a charge density which varies with distance r from the center according to http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/9577/wangsnessproblem594.gif where A is a constant and http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/555/wangsnessproblem593.gif .[/URL] Find the scalar potential http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/9326/phi2.gif at all points inside and outside the sphere by using the following formula:

http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/4628/wangsnesseqn572.gif

Express your results in terms of the total charge Q of the sphere.


Homework Equations



Volume of the Sphere: http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/8776/spherevolume.gif

Vector Capital R: (From Source to Point) http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/2586/captialr.gif


The Attempt at a Solution



I'm not sure if I'm over-simplifying this but I figured since the charge density is directly related and varies according to the volume, that is, that I can think of the sphere as containing a series of spheres layered on each other that are infinitely thin, I could take the integral and relate Q to the charge density and the volume. So:

http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/5717/59work1.gif

Then:

http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/3756/59work2.gif

Finding that:

http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/5041/59work3.gif

Plugging that into the main formula above, I get:

http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/9933/59work4.gif

And putting that in terms of Q:

http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/7451/59work5.gif


So if I am reading the question correctly, this is the final formula it asks for. I am really suspicious that I missed something and am forgetting a concept that will make this problem more complex than I think it is. I might also be over-thinking things as well. Any insight would be appreciated. Thank you for your time in advance and I apologize about the pictures, as I am still learning MathType.
 
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Hi MarcZero, welcome to PF!:smile:

MarcZero said:
I'm not sure if I'm over-simplifying this but I figured since the charge density is directly related and varies according to the volume, that is, that I can think of the sphere as containing a series of spheres layered on each other that are infinitely thin, I could take the integral and relate Q to the charge density and the volume. So:

http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/5717/59work1.gif
[/URL]

You are definitely trying to oversimplify things. There is nothing wrong with visualizing the solid sphere as a bunch of spherical shells (which is what I assume you meant) layered on top of each other. But the charge density on each shell will be different, since each shell is a different distance from the center, and the charge density depends on the distance from the center.

In general, Q=\int_{\mathcal{V}}\rho(r')d\tau'\neq\rho V...it is only when the charge density is uniform throughout the volume that you can make this conclusion. In any case, calculating the total charge on the sphere does not really help you to calculate the scalar potential.

Plugging that into the main formula above, I get:

http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/9933/59work4.gif
[/URL]

No, the formula

\Phi(\textbf{r})=\frac{1}{4\pi\epsilon_0}\int_{\mathcal{V}}\frac{\rho(\textbf{r}')d\tau'}{R}

tells you to treat each infinitesimal piece of charge dq'=\rho(\textbf{r}')d\tau' as a point charge, located at \textbf{r'}, and integrate (or add up) the contribution to the potential of each piece

d\Phi(\textbf{r})=\frac{1}{4\pi\epsilon_0}\frac{dq'}{R}=\frac{1}{4\pi\epsilon_0}\frac{\rho(\textbf{r}')d\tau'}{R}

Each piece of charge will be at a different distance r' from the center, and hence will have a different charge density and will also be a different distance R=|\textbf{r}-\textbf{r}'| from the field point and therefor have a different contribution to the potential.

This means that \Phi(\textbf{r})\neq\frac{1}{4\pi\epsilon_0}\frac{Q}{r}...You will actually need to integrate in order to find out what the potential really is!
 
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