Finding the Solution to a Differential Equation

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The discussion revolves around solving a differential equation of the form dy/dx = 3/(2x - 1)^(3/2). Participants are exploring integration techniques and the implications of different forms of the equation.

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  • Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the use of integration techniques, including u-substitution and the power rule. There is confusion about the correct application of these methods and how to handle constants during integration.

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Several participants have offered hints and guidance regarding integration steps, but there is still uncertainty about the correct approach and the interpretation of results. The conversation reflects a mix of attempts to clarify understanding and check assumptions without reaching a consensus on the final answer.

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Participants express concerns about the complexity of the problem and the potential for misunderstanding due to the multiple-choice format of the question. There are indications of varying levels of familiarity with the concepts involved.

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Homework Statement


If
dy / dx = 3 / (2x - 1)^3/2
and c is a real constant, then y is equal to...


Homework Equations


I figured since it is somewhat like the equation 1 / ax + b, then to work it out i must re-work the equation: 1/a LOGe |(ax + b)| + c


The Attempt at a Solution


i have done:
3 [tex]\int[/tex] 1 / (2x - 1)^3/2 dx
= 3/2 LOGe (2x - 1) ^3/2 + c

But not sure what the next step is? Do i get rid of the LOGe and the ^3/2?
 
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If I'm reading your formula correctly, I think you're anti-differentiating this function wrong. This can be handled simply with a u-substitution: Let u = 2x - 1 and go from there.

Edit: This integration is not like 1/(ax + b), it is of the form 1/(ax + b)3/2. Do you understand the difference?
 
jgens said:
Edit: This integration is not like 1/(ax + b), it is of the form 1/(ax + b)3/2. Do you understand the difference?

Yeah i know what you mean, I am just a little confused as to where the 3/2 goes? Its a multiple choice question and all the answers are very different to what i keep getting.
 
That's because you're anti-differentiating the expression incorrectly. Once you use the u-substitution I suggested, this problem becomes a trivial use of the power rule. You should have:

dy/dx = 3/u3/2

Now, from the chain rule, we have that:

dy/du * du/dx = 3/u3/2

Can you solve the problem now?
 
I think so, i got:
-9 / (2x - 1)5/2 + c

That sound right or did i miss something?
 
Well, it almost looks like you just differentiated the function again which is certainly not correct!

Hint: if y = xn then dy/dx = nxn-1 . . . if dy/dx = xn then y = xn+1/(n + 1)
 
im still not understanding this, can you please explain how to do it?
 
Unfortunately, no. These forums are not here to do your homework for you, they are here to help you. So here's more help! If there's anything you're not clear on, don't hesitate to ask!

If u = 2x - 1 then du/dx = 2. Then, by the chain rule we have that 2 * dy/du = 3/u3/2. This means that 2y = 3∫u-3/2 du. Can you do the problem from here?
 
Ok so thought du/dx was 2, and so its dy/du * 2 = 3/u3/2.
That was where i got stuck :P, i thought, well then dy/du must equal 3 / u3/2 / 2
But as you just mentioned, i left out another du.
so its 2y = 3∫u3-/2 * du
therefore 2y = 3∫u3-/2 * 2 (du = 2 right?)
can just you just confirm that's correct?
 
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Your first thoughts were actually closer to the mark! In this case, du != 2 especially since du = 2dx. The du following the integral sign essentially just means that you are anti-differentiating the expression with respect to u rather than x or some other variable.
 
  • #11
ohh i understand. ok well back to my first thoughts, in a way i think i can write it:
y = (3 ∫u ^-3/2) / 2
y = (3 ∫u ^-1/2) / 2 * -1/2
y = (3 ∫u ^-1/2) / -1
if that's correct a hint for the next step please?
 
  • #12
Other than sloppy notation, that looks almost right! Once you've anti-differentiated a function you no longer include the integral sign and it appears that you've forgotten the constant of integration.
 
  • #13
i don't know if i have really learned all this yet, to me its a really tough question so I am assuming I am not quite there yet lol.
but none-the-less, the answer i received on paper was:
-6 / (2x - 1)^1/2 + c
but from the way i have been going its probably wrong...
 
  • #14
Well, that answer look right other than the fact that it includes an extra factor of 2. How did you get the extra factor of 2?
 
  • #15
ohh no! i was looking at the wrong equation. mistake on my behalf, i would say its supposed to be the same equation but with -3 at the top?
that looks better in my eyes but your opinion would be great!
 
  • #16
Yup, the answer I got is y = C - 3(2x - 1)-1.
 

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