Finding the Unknown Mass and Force in a Suspended Chain Link System

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The problem involves a system of two chain links, where one link's mass is known and the other's is unknown. The system is suspended and subjected to an applied force, with a specified acceleration. The goal is to determine the unknown mass and the force exerted by the second link on the first.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss using Newton's second law (F=ma) to analyze the forces acting on the system. There is an exploration of the relationship between the total mass and the forces involved, with some questioning how to proceed after substituting known values into the equations.

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Some participants have provided guidance on setting up equations based on the forces acting on the system. There is an ongoing exploration of how to isolate the unknown mass and the force exerted by link 2 on link 1, with no explicit consensus reached yet.

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Participants note that the weight of link 2 needs to be considered separately from its mass, and there is an emphasis on the importance of free body diagrams in visualizing the forces at play.

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Homework Statement



Two chain links are connected together and are suspended by a string. The mass of the top link, link#1 is 8kg, while the mass of the second/bottom link #2 is unknown. If an applied force on the string attached to link #1 of 216N[up], and the links experience an acceleration of 2m/s^2 [up] find the mass of link #2 and the force that link#2 exerts on link1

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The only thing I know is that the mass is equal to the mass of both of the chains put together, so the mass is greater than 8kg.


The Attempt at a Solution


I'm not sure what equations I would have to use
 
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F=ma=sum of all forces. Force 1 is upwards=216. Force downwards is due to gravity.

To start, consider a tota mass which is equal to m1 + m2 =M m1=8, m2=?

2*M=(216-Mg) Can you get m2?
 
if we were to sub all of our knows into the equation 2 x M= (216-mg) we would get

2 x M= (216 - m x 10)

but then where would we go from there
 
Well this (M) is the total mass. So subtract m1 and you have the unknown mass. Then if you do a Free body diagram, the force that link 2 exerts on link 1 is easily obtained--it is just the weight of link 2 (note weight is not same as mass)
 

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