Finding the velocity of a car in a different frame of reference

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The discussion revolves around determining the velocity of a car from the perspective of a second car moving at a different speed. The subject area includes concepts of relative motion and the Galilean transformation in classical mechanics.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore the application of the Galilean transformation to relate the velocities of the two cars. There is a focus on understanding the correct definition of the speed between the two frames of reference and how to express the velocity of the first car in the second car's frame.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants clarifying the definitions and relationships between the velocities involved. Some guidance has been offered regarding the correct interpretation of the transformation, but there is no explicit consensus on the final formulation.

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There is a note of frustration regarding the precision of the problem statement, indicating that the original homework question may lack clarity in its definitions and parameters.

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Homework Statement
A car is moving on a road with a initial speed ##v = v_0## and then it starts to speed up with ##a_0## what's the speed of this car in the frame of reference on a second car moving at the speed V.
Relevant Equations
##v' = (v_0 + at) - V##
Here's what I did so far.
The velocity of the first car is ##v = v_0 +at##

Frame of reference S = the road
Frame of reference S' = the second car

thus, v' is the speed of the first car in the frame of reference S' and v the speed in the frame of reference S.

Here's what make me doubt.
The Galilean transformation
##v' = v - V##
V should be the speed between S and S', in this case what I wrote is wrong.
V should be ##(v_0 + at) - V ##, right?

And then, ##v' = (v_0 + at) - ((v_0 + at) - V)## does it make sense ?
 
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Redwaves said:
Here's what make me doubt.
The Galilean transformation
##v' = v - V##
V should be the speed between S and S', in this case what I wrote is wrong.
V should be ##(v_0 + at) - V ##, right?

And then, ##v' = (v_0 + at) - ((v_0 + at) - V)## does it make sense ?
You were correct the first time. V is the speed of the second car (and thus frame S') with respect to S.

Realize that your final equation becomes ##v' = (v_0 + at) - ((v_0 + at) - V) = V##. Does that make sense?
 
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I see. I didn't realize that the road is at rest... Of course the speed between S and S' is V.
Thanks!
 
Redwaves said:
Homework Statement:: A car is moving on a road with a initial speed ##v = v_0## and then it starts to speed up with ##a_0## what's the speed of this car in the frame of reference on a second car moving at the speed V.
If someone is going to set questions like this, they ought to be more precise, IMO:

A car is moving on relative to a road with an initial speed velocity ##v = v_0## and then it starts to speed up with accelerate at ##a_0##. What's the speed velocity of this car in the frame of reference of a second car moving at the speed velocity V relative to the road.
 

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