Finding the x component of a vector given this angle

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The discussion revolves around finding the x component of a vector given its angle with the x-axis. The problem involves two unknowns: the magnitude of the vector and the x component itself, with a specific angle of 33.7 degrees provided.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss various methods to find the x component, including algebraic approaches and process of elimination. There is a suggestion to explore whether multiple values for x could satisfy the given angle condition.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively exploring different methods to determine the x component, with some expressing uncertainty about the efficiency of their current approaches. Guidance has been offered regarding the relationship between the vector's components and its magnitude, as well as the concept of direction angles and cosines.

Contextual Notes

There is mention of the need for a decimal form of the x component and the constraints of the problem, including the requirement that x is positive. Some participants note the potential complexity of the problem due to the presence of two unknowns.

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Homework Statement
This is probably a simple question for most of you but I can't seem to figure out this format of solving a vector when there are two unknowns (Unknown magnitude and unknown x). Thank you!
Relevant Equations
V = xi + 5.9j + 9.8k
If V makes an angle with i of 33.7 degrees, what is x? x is positive
A = |A|cos33.7

A = |A|0.83195
 
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Indras said:
Homework Statement:: This is probably a simple question for most of you but I can't seem to figure out this format of solving a vector when there are two unknowns (Unknown magnitude and unknown x). Thank you!
Relevant Equations:: V = xi + 5.9j + 9.8k
If V makes an angle with i of 33.7 degrees, what is x? x is positive

A = |A|cos33.7

A = |A|0.83195
Do you think you could find two different values of ##x## that satisfy that requirement?
 
Thanks!

They want the x component in decimal form. It definitely involves some algebra. For example I can solve it through process of elimination by guessing for x and solving until the magnitude divides by x and equals 0.83195.
So for this question it'd be 20.615 = √(17.15)^2 + (5.9)^2 + (9.8)^2
17.15 / 20.615 = .8319
Which gives me 33.7 degrees

But this method is definitely not efficient so there must be an algebraic method to find x more quickly?
 
Indras said:
Thanks!

They want the x component in decimal form. It definitely involves some algebra. For example I can solve it through process of elimination by guessing for x and solving until the magnitude divides by x and equals 0.83195.
So for this question it'd be 20.615 = √(17.15)^2 + (5.9)^2 + (9.8)^2
17.15 / 20.615 = .8319
Which gives me 33.7 degrees

But this method is definitely not efficient so there must be an algebraic method to find x more quickly?
You have ##\vec v \cdot \vec i = |\vec v| \cos \theta = \sqrt{x^2 + y^2 + z^2} \cos \theta##.

Can you find another expression for ##\vec v \cdot \vec i ##?
 
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Indras said:
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But this method is definitely not efficient so there must be an algebraic method to find x more quickly?
In this question θ is called the vector's ‘direction angle’ with respect to the x-axis. And cosθ is called the ‘direction cosine’ with respect to the x-axis.

With x, y and z the components of v, the length (magnitude) of v is |v| = √(x² + y² + z²).

If you can’t draw your own, a search will give many helpful diagrams explaining (3D) direction angles/cosines.

Using your diagram, can you express cosθ in terms of x and |v|? Finding x is then just algebra (solving a quadratic).
 

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