Finding the Zero Point of Electric Potential Between Two Point Charges

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves two point charges located on the x-axis, specifically a charge of +5q at x = 1.50m and a charge of -q at x = -1.50m. The task is to find the point on the x-axis where the electric potential is zero, as well as to identify the regions where the electric potential also vanishes.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the equation used to find the point where the electric potential is zero, with one participant attempting to solve for x and expressing confusion about identifying the second region. Others question the use of absolute values in the equations and explore different cases for evaluating the electric potential.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants sharing their attempts and questioning the assumptions made in the equations. Some guidance has been provided regarding the use of absolute values and the evaluation of potential in different regions, but no consensus has been reached on the correct approach for the second region.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working under the constraints of a homework assignment, which may limit the information they can use or the methods they can apply. There is also a focus on ensuring the correct interpretation of the electric potential equations.

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Homework Statement



Two point charges are placed on the x axis. The charge + 5 q is at x =1.50m , and the charge −q
is at x= -1.50m .
There is a point on the x-axis between the two charges where the electric potential is zero. Where is this point?

The electric potential also vanishes in one of the following regions: Region 1, 10.0m>x>1.50m ;
region 2, -1.50m >x> - 10.0m. Identify the appropriate region.
Find the value here.


Homework Equations



V= kq/r

The Attempt at a Solution



For part a)
0 = -1/x + 5/(3-x)
Solve for x, i got 0.5, which is from -1.50

I don't understand how to get the second region.
 
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Peetah said:

Homework Statement



Two point charges are placed on the x axis. The charge + 5 q is at x =1.50m , and the charge −q
is at x= -1.50m .
There is a point on the x-axis between the two charges where the electric potential is zero. Where is this point?

The electric potential also vanishes in one of the following regions: Region 1, 10.0m>x>1.50m ;
region 2, -1.50m >x> - 10.0m. Identify the appropriate region.
Find the value here.


Homework Equations



V= kq/r

The Attempt at a Solution



For part a)
0 = -1/x + 5/(3-x)
Solve for x, i got 0.5, which is from -1.50

I don't understand how to get the second region.
Hello Peetah. Welcome to PF !


How did you solve the equation to get a distance of 0.5m from x = -1.50 m ?

What is the x coordinate of that point?
 
Thanks,

1/x = 5/(3-x)
3-x = 5x
x = 0.5,
Since x is from -1.50m, for the first part, it is -1.0m
 
Don't you really want

##\displaystyle 0=\frac{-1}{\left| x \right|} + \frac{5}{\left| 3-x \right|} \ \ ? ##
 
I figured it had something to do with absolute values. would the other situation be:

0 = -1/-x + 5/(3-x)?

Sorry, I have no idea how to add an equation to make it look nice
 
Peetah said:
I figured it had something to do with absolute values. would the other situation be:

0 = -1/-x + 5/(3-x)?

Sorry, I have no idea how to add an equation to make it look nice
Yes, that should work. Why does it work?


Actually, if you want to have x be the location on the x-axis at which you are evaluating the electric potential (That would be the usual thing to do.) then the electric potential is given by the following.

## \displaystyle V(x)=\frac{-1}{\left| x-(-1.5) \right|} + \frac{5}{\left| x-1.5\right|} \ \ ##
##\displaystyle =\frac{-1}{\left| x+1.5 \right|} + \frac{5}{\left| x-1.5 \right|} \ \ ##​

Then consider the 3 cases individually:
x > 1.5

-1.5 < x < 1.5

x < -1.5​

You will find some x that makes V(x) = 0 for two of these cases.
 
Awesome, thanks a lot!
 

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