Finding time using Impulsive forces and momentum

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving a rocket's launch, specifically focusing on the relationship between impulsive forces, momentum, and the time required for the engine to burn to reach a certain speed. The problem presents a scenario with given forces, weight, and a target velocity.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Mixed

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  • Participants explore the calculation of time using force and momentum, questioning the relationship between weight and mass. Some participants attempt to reconcile their calculations with the expected answer, while others discuss the definitions of mass and weight.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants providing clues and insights into the calculations and definitions involved. There is a mix of attempts to clarify concepts and resolve discrepancies in understanding, particularly regarding the units of measurement and the relationship between mass and weight.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating the distinction between weight (measured in Newtons) and mass (measured in kilograms), with some confusion noted regarding their definitions and relationships. The original poster references a teacher-provided answer, indicating a desire to understand the reasoning behind it.

WarOwk

Homework Statement


A rocket, weighing 43,600N, has an engine that provides an upward force of 120,000N. It reaches a maximum speed of 860 m/s. For how much time must the engine burn during launch in order to reach this speed?

Homework Equations


p=m*Δv
i=F*t

The Attempt at a Solution


I started by using 120,000N as the Force. I used 43,600 as the mass and 860 as the velocity. I multiplied 43,600 by 860 to get 37,496,00. I then divided the momentum(37,496,000) by the force(120,000) to solve for time. The solution I got was 312.5 seconds. Our teacher has already given us the answer to the problem which is 31.8 seconds, but there is an upcoming test and I would like to know how he got this answer.
 
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Clue: 312.5/31.8 = 9.8
 
George Jones said:
Clue: 312.5/31.8 = 9.8
I think I figured it out. Momentum is measured in kg*m/s, but the mass is measured in Newtons. So, you divide the 312.5 by 9.8 to get it in correct units. When I divided the 43,600 N first I got the same answer. The quote helped. Thank You!
 
WarOwk said:
but the mass is measured in Newtons.

Weight is measured in Newtons; mass is measured in kilograms.
 
I think I understand it now, weight is the gravitational force of an object. It's equation is (9.8N/kg * mass), and mass is the weight divided by 9.8 N/kg because it is the amount of stuff on an object. Mass and weight are inversely related to each other.
 
WarOwk said:
mass is the weight divided by 9.8 N/kg
Yes, but that is not how mass is defined. "Mass" generally means inertial mass and is defined as resistance to linear acceleration. If a firce F is applied to a mass and the resulting acceleration is a then the mass is F/a.
It turns out that inertial mass is proportional to gravitational mass, but there is no known reason the universe had to be that way.
WarOwk said:
Mass and weight are inversely related to each other.
No, directly proportional, not inversely.
 

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