Finding Time with Work and Distance

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The discussion revolves around finding the time taken for a lawnmower to travel a certain distance, given the work done and the forces acting on it. The subject area includes concepts from mechanics, specifically work-energy principles and kinematics.

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  • Participants explore the relationship between work done, final velocity, and time. There are attempts to connect acceleration to net forces and kinematic equations. Questions arise regarding the assumptions made about initial conditions and the effects of friction and angle of force application.

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The discussion is active, with various approaches being suggested to relate work, acceleration, and time. Some participants have provided insights into the importance of considering friction and the normal force, while others express uncertainty about certain assumptions, such as the initial velocity of the mower.

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Participants note the need to account for forces such as friction and the angle of the applied force, as well as the correct calculation of the normal force. There is also mention of the problem setter's intent regarding the application of force along the handle's axis.

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Homework Statement
A person pulls on a 20kg lawnmower with a force of 25.0N and moves the mower 4.50metes. The handle angle is 15* with the horizontal and μ=0.100.

What I've found:

a) Work done by person = 109J
B) Work done by friction= -85.3J
C) Find the time= ?
Relevant Equations
P=W/T
W= Fd
I tried using the 109 J to convert to seconds but that didn't work. I also looked through the energy equations but nothing worked. I am not sure how to find time.
 
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Can you relate the total work done to the final velocity of the mower?

The time is related to the distance traveled and the average velocity.
 
Or you can find the acceleration from the net horizontal force and use the kinematic equation relating acceleration, distance and time. It is appropriate to assume that the lawnmower starts from rest.
 
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TSny said:
Can you relate the total work done to the final velocity of the mower?

The time is related to the distance traveled and the average velocity.
F=ma --> a=F/m...
a= 25N/20kg
a= 1.25 m/s^2..

Acceleration is the change in speed so a=vt.. But I'm not sure how I find velocity?
 
I think you got to take into account the force of friction as well, in order to calculate the net acceleration.

Once you find the net acceleration ##a##, use the equation ##s=v_0t+\frac{1}{2}at^2## to find the time. We assume that the lawnmower starts from rest, that is ##v_0=0##, I am not sure if this is a perfectly safe assumption though.
 
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Delta2 said:
you got to take into account the force of friction
and the angle at which the tractive force is applied. And don't forget to calculate the normal force correctly.
 
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haruspex said:
and the angle at which the tractive force is applied. And don't forget to calculate the normal force correctly.
Oh damn how could I forget all this...Yes especially the normal force which won't be equal to the weight...
 
The problem setter apparently intends that the tractive force is applied along the axis of the handle, though most mowers are equipped with stops that prevent handle travel beyond a certain range and thus permit forces with other directions as well.
 
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OP has correctly calculated the works in parts (a) and (b) which cannot be done without the correct expression of the normal force. The connection that OP missed is that, in this case,
$$W_{\text{net}}=W_{\text{F}}+W_{\text{fr.}}=F_{\text{net,x}}~\Delta x=m~a~\Delta x~\implies~a =\frac{W_{\text{F}}+W_{\text{fr.}}}{m\Delta x}.$$
 
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