Finding total force - Is this correct?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the total force exerted by a weight lifter lifting a weight, considering both the mass of the lifter and the weight being lifted, along with the acceleration involved.

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  • Participants explore the concept of net force versus total force, with some questioning the inclusion of gravitational forces in the calculations. There is an inquiry about the correct approach to determine the total force applied to the floor.

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Some participants have provided insights regarding the distinction between net force and total force, suggesting that gravitational forces must be considered. There is an ongoing request for clarification on how to calculate the total force, indicating a productive exchange of ideas.

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Participants are discussing the application of Newton's laws, particularly questioning the relevance of Newton's third law in this context. There is an emphasis on understanding the forces acting on both the weight and the weight lifter.

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A weight lifter who has a mass of 90kg lifts a weight of 50kg, which accelerates the weight at a rate of 0.47 m/s^2

Would the total force simply be (140kg)*(0.47m/s^2) = 65.8 n?

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nukeman said:

Homework Statement



A weight lifter who has a mass of 90kg lifts a weight of 50kg, which accelerates the weight at a rate of 0.47 m/s^2

Would the total force simply be (140kg)*(0.47m/s^2) = 65.8 n?

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The Attempt at a Solution


That would actually be your net force. You forgot the force of gravity.

Additionally, I don't think the weightlifter is accelerating into the air - only the weight.
 
ahh, net force.

Can you possibly point me in the right direction for total force for my example?
 
Can anyone else help me out with this one?

Thanks :)
 
You have the force of gravity on the weightlifter.

You not only have the force of gravity on the weight, but the weightlifter is applying a force to accelerate it.

This would be the total force applied to the floor the weightlifter is standing on.
 
BobG said:
You have the force of gravity on the weightlifter.

You not only have the force of gravity on the weight, but the weightlifter is applying a force to accelerate it.

This would be the total force applied to the floor the weightlifter is standing on.

Thank you... How would I calculate this?

So, I am asking to identify which laws are being used.

This would be Newtons 3rd correct?
 

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