Finding Treasure with a Gallows & Two Trees

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around a treasure hunt problem involving geometric reasoning and complex numbers, as presented in George Gamow's book. Participants explore the implications of the problem, particularly the role of the gallows in locating the treasure using only the positions of two trees.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes the treasure hunt problem and its historical context, emphasizing the challenge of finding the treasure without the gallows.
  • Another participant introduces the concept of using complex numbers to solve the problem, noting that multiplication by i represents a 90-degree turn left, while multiplication by -i represents a 90-degree turn right.
  • The mathematical approach is outlined, suggesting that the gallows' position is not necessary to find the treasure, as the midpoint between the stakes can be determined using the trees' coordinates.
  • Additional comments provide background on George Gamow, highlighting his contributions to science and his humorous nature.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the mathematical approach to solving the problem using complex numbers, but there is no explicit consensus on the broader implications or interpretations of the problem's context.

Contextual Notes

The discussion assumes familiarity with complex numbers and geometric reasoning, and it does not resolve the potential ambiguities in the problem's setup or the implications of using the trees' positions alone.

Who May Find This Useful

Readers interested in mathematical puzzles, the application of complex numbers in geometry, or the historical context of scientific figures may find this discussion engaging.

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I came across this amusing treasure hunt problem in a book on the history of complex numbers. The author got it from George Gamow's classic, "One, Two, Three, Infinity". I'll paraphrase.

Directions:
Long ago pirates buried a treasure on a certain desolate island. No longer desolate, while vacationing on the island you discover the original directions for locating the treasure. The directions only involve a gallows (pirates, you know) and two conspicuous trees. One tree is an oak, the other a pine.

The directions for locating the treasure are as follows:
Walk from the gallows straight to the oak, counting your steps. Turn exactly 90 degrees to the right and walk in a straight line the counted number of steps. Drive a stake at that location. Now, go back to the gallows and walk to the pine tree, again, counting your steps. At the pine tree turn exactly 90 degrees to the left. At the pine walk the distance that you just determined by step counting. Drive a second stake. The treasure is buried under the midpoint between the two stakes.

That's pretty easy except for one ugly problem; you know precisely where the two conspicuous trees are located on the island but any trace of a pirates' gallows has long since disappeared. Can you still find the treasure with only the trees and the directions to go on?

[The intention of both authors was convey awe at the "magical" utility of complex numbers but when a treasure is involved I guess anything goes]
 
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It 's found in the above book, and on the internet. Concerns the fact that multiplication of a point in the complex plane connected to the origin by i turns it 90 degrees left, and by -i turns 90 degrees clockwise. Place the elm and oak conveniently at (-1,0) and (1,0).

Before the thread vanishes, I will indicate the method. Suppose we take the one connected with oak at (1,0) and the right turn. That's -i(G-1), but we want that connected to the point (1,0), so we get -i(G-1)-1. The other is i(G+1)+1, and the midpoint is {-i(G-1)-1 +i(G+1)+1}/2 = i.

Which shows that to know the position of the gallows is unnecessary.
 
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Incidently, this is Gamow of Big Bang fame. He was also a famous prankster and a gifted expositor.
 
I wish to add, he defected from the Soviet Union in 1934 and was once described by a United Press reporter as "The only scientist in America with a real sense of humor"
 

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