Solve Long John Silver's Pirate Treasure Puzzle: Find Coordinates

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The problem involves calculating the coordinates of a treasure location based on a series of movements between specified points on a coordinate plane. The points are defined by their coordinates relative to an origin, and the movements are specified as fractions of the distances between these points.

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  • Participants discuss the method of calculating distances between points, particularly focusing on how to correctly apply the specified fractions of distances. There is a debate on whether to use vector components or midpoint formulas for these calculations.

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Some participants have provided guidance on the correct method for calculating the halfway and fractional distances, while others are verifying their results based on these methods. There is an ongoing exploration of different approaches to the problem, with no explicit consensus reached on the final answer.

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Participants note that the order of the points can be rearranged, and they are encouraged to explore this aspect to confirm the consistency of their results. There is also mention of potential errors in previous calculations that participants are attempting to clarify.

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Long John Silver, a pirate, has buried his treasure on an island with five trees located at the following points: A (30.0 m, -20.0 m), B (60.0 m, 80.0 m), C (-10.0 m, -10.0 m), D (40.0 m, -30.0 m), and E (-70.0 m, 60.0 m). All of the points are measured relative to some origin. Long John's map instructs you to start at A and move toward B, but cover only one-half the distance between A and B. then move toward C, covering one-half the distance between your current location and C. Then move toward D, covering one-fifth the distance between where you are and D. Finally, move toward E, covering one-fifth the distance between you and E, stop, and dig.

What are the coordinates of the point where the pirate's treasure is buried?

i added all the x's and y's (following the rules of above) and got x 49 and y = 21

i got the problem wrong..so what am i doing wrong?


the question also says that you can rearrange the order of the trees - for instance, B (30 m, -20 m), A (60 m, 80 m), E (-10 m, -10 m), C (40 m, -30 m), and D (-70 m, 60 m) - and repeat the calculation to show that the answer does not depend on the order...i did the latter and still got the problem wrong...

please help
 
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Why don't you spell out your intermediate steps along the way so we can see where you might have made an error.
 
k...so i have
Ax = 30
Ay= -20

Bx = 60
By = 80 half the distance from A to B would be adding (60/2) to Ax and (80/2) to Ay...so now I am at (60,20)

Cx = -10
Cy = -10 half the distance from (60,20) to C would be adding (-10/2) to 60 and (-10/2) to 20...so now I am at (55,15)

dx = 40 (1/5) the distance from (55,15) to D gives me (63,9)
dy = -30

Ex = -70
Ey = 60 (1/5) the distance from (63,9) to E gives me (49,21) as my final point
 
The keyword here is "half the distance from A to B"

You are dividing the coordinate of point B by two, then adding to A..which is wrong.

You first need to find the distance, or the VECTOR AB

broken down into components:
Bx - Ax = ABx
By - Ay = ABy

which is simply:

60-30 = 30 = ABx
80-(-20)=100 = ABy
vecotr AB = <30,100>

Now, divide both the vector by two, or multiply by (1/2)

vectorAB/2 will result in the components <15,50>

now take that vector and add that to the coordinate of point A

( (30+15), (-20+50) ) = (45,30) is the point halfway from point A to B, or "half the distance from A to B"



Of course you could simply use the midpoint forumula

pt = ((x1+x2)/2, (y1+y2)/2))..and that will be the same result...
 
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k i followed ur steps and got (3.6,13.6)...can somebody please confirm my answer...also, when finding the (1/5th) distance between two points could you use (x1+x2)/5, y1+y2/5...i tried this but i got conflicting numbers compared to doing it the other way...
 
rcwha said:
...also, when finding the (1/5th) distance between two points could you use (x1+x2)/5, y1+y2/5
No. Adding 1/5 of the distance (just like adding half the distance) means:
x1 + (x2 - x1)/5; y1 + (y2 - y1)/5.

Of course, adding half the distance is a special case, since:
x1 + (x2 - x1)/2 = (x1 + x2)/2, but that won't work in general.
 
like i said earlier, i got (3.6,13.6) as my final answer from using tekken's method...did i get it right?
 
rcwha said:
i got (3.6,13.6) as my final answer
Looks good to me.
 

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