Finding variance without knowing mean?

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The discussion revolves around a statistics problem concerning the calculation of variance without an explicitly provided mean. The context is set within a business statistics class, where the original poster seeks clarification on how to approach the problem given the provided data.

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  • Participants explore whether the mean can be derived from the given data, questioning the necessity of having the mean explicitly stated to find the variance. Some suggest that the mean can be calculated from the provided sum and count of values.

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The discussion is progressing with participants offering insights on how to derive the mean from the available information. There is an acknowledgment of the original poster's oversight regarding the mean, indicating a productive direction in the conversation.

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There is a mention of the expectation for a numerical answer in the context of a business statistics class, which may influence how participants interpret the problem and the necessity of the mean.

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Hi,

my girlfriend is taking a business statistics class and she had a test today. she got stumped on a question and wrote it down so she could ask me about it when she got back since I'm pretty good at math. I tried solving it but from what i can tell it seems like you would need to know the mean in order to find the variance. the question is below:

Find the Variance:

n = 5
LaTeX Code: \\Sigma x^{2} = 1320
LaTeX Code: \\Sigma x = 80


I expanded out the variance formula. since we run from i=1 to n (where n=5)
I got the formula V = 1320 - 160LaTeX Code: u^{2} + 5LaTeX Code: u^{2} LaTeX Code: /5

where u = the mean.

My girlfriend says that the mean was not specified in the problem. I would have given my answer for the variance as a function of the mean as you can see above, but since this is a business statistics class i have the tendency to believe the teacher is expecting a numerical answer. Does anyone have any insight into how this problem can be solved, or is there not enough information given?

Thank you.
 
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You can work out the mean. The mean is the just (1/n)Sigma x, the sum of the scores divided by the number of scores.
 
You need to know the mean but the mean doesn't have to be "given". If [itex]\sum x= 80[/itex] and n= 5, then the mean is [itex]\sum x/n= 80/5= 16[/itex].
 
You can calculate the standard deviation by finding "sum of x" and "sum of x^2" as you go through the data
and calculating (sorry my latex skills are weak today)
sd = 1/n * sqrt ( n*sum_x2 - (sum_x)^2 )

It allows you to only make a single pass through the data - but be careful of rounding errors
 
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wow thanks everyone. That was really dumb of me to not realize that the mean was right before my eyes.
 

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