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Homework Statement



Please look at the first attachment, I need to solve question #15


Homework Equations



See the second attachment

The Attempt at a Solution



Well I got Ax = -75cm, Ay = 129.9cm but I just can't solve the problem because I got stuck at solving for Bx and By.

Attachment 3 is my work.

Please teach me how to solve the answer
by the way, the answer is 196cm at 14.7 degree below x-axis

also, if possible, may sketch the picture of this problem for me, please?
 
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  • Printed textbook page showing Figure P3.13 caption above problems 14 and 5 about forces on a mule and displacements of a mop, with a vector diagram axis labelled x(km) and values 50, 100, 150, 200 at the top.
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  • Handwritten notes titled Equation: A + B = R, Rx = Ax + Bx, Ry = (Ay + By), R = square root of (Rx squared + Ry squared), then theta = tan^-1(Ry/Rx), beside a sketch of a right triangle with sides R, Ry and Rx.
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  • Handwritten vector diagram with x and y axes, vectors A, B and R drawn from a common origin, with an angle marked between A and R, beside handwritten equations: Ax = A cos θ = -75 cm, Ay = A sin θ = 129.9 cm, Rx = Ax + Bx, Rx - Ax = Bx, and R = 140 with R² = 19600 = x² + y².
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jwxie said:

Homework Statement



Please look at the first attachment, I need to solve question #15


Homework Equations



See the second attachment

The Attempt at a Solution



Well I got Ax = -75cm, Ay = 129.9cm but I just can't solve the problem because I got stuck at solving for Bx and By.

Please teach me how to solve the answer
by the way, the answer is 196cm at 14.7 degree below x-axis

also, if possible, may sketch the picture of this problem for me, please?

What you want to do is exploit the vector addition of the components.

In this problem they have given you the initial displacement vector and the final result.

Split the 3 vectors into their x,y components. And then write the equations for x adding to the result and then y adding to the result.

Sure Vector 2 components will be unknown but you will have two equations and each equation will give you each component of Vector 2. Then solve and do the tan-1 as you did in your first try.
 
hello lowly, thank you for your quick reply
but i am really having problem with this
so i did... (not quite sure everything you mean), but

Ax = ACos = -75cm
Ay = ASin = 129.9 cm

Bx = BCos
By = BSin

Rx = Ax+Bx --> Rx = -75cm+Bx
Ry = Ay+By --> Ry = 129.9cm+By

R = 140 (resultant), and since R^2 = Rx^2+Ry^2, then i have
140^2 = (-75cm+Bx)^2 + (129.9cm+By)^2
but doesn't it turn into unknown solution? i can't solve for either component...
 
i have tried this really hard...=.= still can't answer it
it sounds stupid but.. i don't know why i got stuck
 
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  • Handwritten notes on lined paper deriving vector component equations: Ax = A cos θ, Ay = A sin θ, Bx = B cos θ, By = B sin θ, Rx = Ax + Bx, Ry = Ay + By, R² = Rx² + Ry², R = √(Rx² + Ry²), θ = tan⁻¹(Ry/Rx), with values 150 cos 120 and 150 sin 120 and a boxed sum of -75 cm + B cos θ and 130 cm + B sin θ.
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anyone would like to give a hand?
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And then write the equations for x adding to the result and then y adding to the result.

what do you mean?
 
i actually figured it out (not yet to the right answer)
but here is what i thought

since R = sqrt of x^2 + y^2
then the x = the sum of ax+bx
and y = sum of ay+ay

now the problem is, after many trial out, the closest i can get is 189.7

i just need to confirm 2 things

1) to find Vector A(1)'s component, is the angle 120, or 60?
2) to find the R vector component, we use 35, -35, or 145 degree?
 
A = (Ax,Ay) = (150 cos120, 150 sin120) = (-150 sin30, 150 cos30) = (-75, 75*sqrt(3))
R = (Rx,Ry) = (140 cos35, 140 sin35) = ()
A+B=R so B=R-A
B = (Rx-Ax, Ry-Ay) = (140 cos35 + 75 , 140 sin35 - 75*sqrt(3))
cos(35) = 0.819152044
sin(35) = 0.573576436
75 * sqrt(3) = 129.903811
B = (Rx-Ax, Ry-Ay) = (114.681286 + 75 , 80.3007011 - 129.903811) = (189.681286, -49.6031095)
 
ty all
i figured out my calculation was wrong in the first place, so i didn't get a correct solution
thank you very much