Finding Vf when you dont have distance and only height without numerical value

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving a box sliding down a frictionless incline and then moving across a surface with friction. The problem requires finding the final velocity of the box at various heights without having specific numerical values for distance or mass, focusing on energy conservation principles.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss using energy conservation to relate potential and kinetic energy to find the final velocity. There are attempts to set up equations based on mechanical energy at different points, but some express confusion about how to proceed without numerical values.

Discussion Status

Some participants have suggested using energy conservation principles and setting up equations to express the final velocity in terms of height. Others are struggling with the conceptual understanding of how to apply these principles without specific values and are seeking further clarification and guidance.

Contextual Notes

There is a noted lack of numerical values for distance and mass, which some participants feel complicates their ability to find a solution. The problem also involves assumptions about mechanical energy that are not explicitly stated in the problem statement.

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Homework Statement


13. A box of mass m is released from rest at point A, the top of a long, frictionless slide. Point A is at height H above the level of points B and C. Although the slide is frictionless, the horizontal surface from point B to point C is not. The coefficient of kinetic friction between the box and this surface is µk, and the horizontal distance between points B and C is x.
a. Find the speed of the box when its height above point B is ½H.
b. Find the speed of the box when it reaches point B.
c. Determine the value of µk so that the box comes to rest at point C.
d. Now assume that points B and C were not on the same horizontal level. In particular, assume that the surface from B to C had a uniform and upward slope so that point C were still at a horizontal distance of x from B but now at a vertical height y above B. Answer the question posed in part (c).

The Attempt at a Solution

I tried to use the equation D= (Vi+Vf)*t/2 but I am missing the distance

Homework Statement


Homework Equations


D=(Vi+Vf)T/2

The Attempt at a Solution

I tried using the equation D=(Vi+Vf)T/2 but i don't have the dictance(D)
 
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Hint: Use energy conservation. Express your answer in terms of the given quantities, like H.
 
i don't see how that is going to give me the answer for Vf
 
Write expressions for the total mechanical energy at the initial and final points. Compare.
 
can you give the answer i really need this I am desperate!
 
I understand that E=1/2 mv^2 +mgh, but i don't see how that gives you the velocity at half of the high when they don't mention mechanical energy
 
joseernesto said:
I understand that E=1/2 mv^2 +mgh,
That's all you need.

What's the initial KE? The initial PE?

The final KE? The final PE?

Set up an equation and solve for the final KE and then the final velocity.

but i don't see how that gives you the velocity at half of the high when they don't mention mechanical energy
They expect you to know it without their mentioning it!
 
man, i don't see where this **** is going, I don't understand how KE will help me find Vf if there arent values for the variables
 
joseernesto said:
I don't understand how KE will help me find Vf if there arent values for the variables
You are not going to get a numerical answer; your answer will be in terms of H. You'll solve for the answer by setting up an equation and doing a bit of algebra.

Stop avoiding the problem and TRY IT! :smile: Answer my questions.
 
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bad bro... jaja ill give it a shot and ill probably ask for more help later...ajaja
 
  • #11
hey i couldn't figure out the problem can u please help me a little bit more, this is the only question that i have left and i want to finish
 
  • #12
Answer the questions I asked in post #7. Step by step.
 

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