Finding volume between surface and x-y plane

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The discussion focuses on finding the volume between the x-y plane and the function z = x^2 + 2y^2, constrained by the ellipse defined by (x+1)^2 + 2(y-2)^2 = 4^2. Participants suggest using double or triple integrals, with an initial setup involving integrating with respect to z. There is a recommendation to consider changing variables to polar or cylindrical coordinates to simplify the integral. The importance of the Jacobian determinant in such transformations is also highlighted. Overall, the conversation emphasizes the need for a clearer approach to setting up the integral for calculating the volume.
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Homework Statement



Find the volume between the x-y plane (z=0) and the function z = x^2+2y^2, given that (x+1)^2+2(y-2)^2=4^2 (ellipse)

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I know this has to do with a double/tripple integral, but if i do the following V = \int^{ x^2+2y^2}_{0}<area\_of\_ellipse> dz, I get some function dependent upon x and y, so i should first integrate with respect to z, so i get \int^a_b \int^c_d x^2+2y^2 dx dy, but what should i use as a,b,c,d?

ThanksEDIT: would it be the following: V = \int_{-5}^3 \int^{\sqrt{\frac{4^2-(x+1)^2}{2}}+2}_{-\sqrt{\frac{4^2-(x+1)^2}{2}}+2} x^2+2y^2 dy dx
 
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Your setup looks good. But what a messy integral. Have you learned change of variables in multiple integrals yet?
 
change of variables... as in changing to polar coordinates rsp. cylinder coordinates?
 
foges said:
change of variables... as in changing to polar coordinates rsp. cylinder coordinates?

More general than that, where you use the Jacobian. Have you learned it yet?
 
umm, our teacher has showed us an example, how when chaning to polar coordinates you need to multiply by the jacobian determinant, nothing in depth though, ill read up on it online though ... if you could give me a tip in what direction i should be searching
 
I was thinking if you transform the unit disc S u^2+v^2\le1 into the ellipse R \left(\frac{x+1}{4}\right)^2+\left(\frac{y-2}{\sqrt{8}}\right)^2\le1 the integral might be easier.
 
Hmm, ok we havnt done that yet, but ill check it out, thanks :)
 

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