Fine structure correction in H atom

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The forum discussion centers on the fine structure correction in hydrogen atoms as presented in Griffiths' second edition. The total fine structure correction is expressed as E_{fs}^{1} ∝ (3 - 4n/(j + 1/2)). A participant questions whether Griffiths incorrectly conflates the quantum numbers l and j, asserting that the fine structure correction is dependent on j rather than l. The discussion references the 1995 edition of Griffiths, which clarifies that fine structure breaks the degeneracy in l while preserving it in j, suggesting a potential inconsistency in the later edition.

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McLaren Rulez
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Hi,

I refer to the second edition (international edition) of Griffiths. He proves that the total fine structure correction (spin orbital plus relativistic) is given by

E_{fs}^{1}\propto (3-\frac{4n}{j+1/2})

After that, he writes this. "Fine structure breaks the degeneracy in l (that is, for a given n, the different allowed values of l do not all carry the same energy) but preserves the degeneracy in j"

Isn't he mixing up l and j? From the relation, it appears that fine structure correction depends on j and not on l. So for a given n, different j values end up with different corrections while the degenracy in l is preserved. Or have I made a mistake in understanding what he is saying? Thank you.
 
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So anybody knows if this is a typo in the text or if I've got it wrong? Thank you
 
McLaren Rulez said:
So anybody knows if this is a typo in the text or if I've got it wrong? Thank you

interestingly enough (or not!) in the 1995 edition page 242 the text reads:

"... Fine structure breaks the degeneracy in l (that is, for a given n, the different allowed values of l do not all carry the same energy); the energies are determined by n and j (see Figure 6.9)..."

which maybe makes a bit more sense!
 

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