High School Finite distance between two points

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In a metric space X, a sufficient condition for the distance d(x,y) to be finite for all points x and y is that X is compact. The discussion highlights that while standard metrics ensure finite distances, there are nonstandard metrics that can allow for infinite distances. The projective line raises questions about its metric properties, with participants debating whether it is metrizable and what the standard metric might be. The continuity of the distance function on compact sets is also noted as a proof of boundedness. Overall, the conversation delves into the complexities of metrics in various spaces, emphasizing the importance of compactness in ensuring finite distances.
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If X is a metric space, what is the simplest sufficient condition for d(x,y)<∞, ∀ x, y ∈ X?
 
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CCMarie said:
If X is a metric space, what is the simplest sufficient condition for d(x,y)<∞, ∀ x, y ∈ X?
What is ##d(.,.)##? If it is the metrc, then this is always the case.
 
Yes, it is the metric. And thank you!
 
CCMarie said:
If X is a metric space, what is the simplest sufficient condition for d(x,y)<∞, ∀ x, y ∈ X?
For X, it is maybe that X is compact. Being bounded may be too obvious/circular.
 
WWGD said:
For X, it is maybe that X is compact. Being bounded may be too obvious/circular.
For any two points the distance is always finite.
 
fresh_42 said:
For any two points the distance is always finite.
fresh_42 said:
For any two points the distance is always finite.
I think there are extended metrics that allow for infinite distance, but they are nonstandard.
 
WWGD said:
I think there are extended metrics that allow for infinite distance, but they are nonstandard.
Interesting question: Do we have a metric on the projective line?
 
fresh_42 said:
Interesting question: Do we have a metric on the projective line?
But these may be different questions: the Real line, nor Euclidean n-space is bounded.
 
Sure. I was thinking about including infinite points and a non standard metric you mentioned.
 
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fresh_42 said:
Sure. I was thinking about including infinite points and a non standard metric you mentioned.
But even with the standard metric, there is no Real M with d(x,y)<M for all x,y in ##\mathbb R^n ##Edit: Just choose the pair M,0 ( or generalized to n dimensions) for d(x,y).
 
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That's why I said projective space. Can we keep the metric via the transition from circle to line, sphere to plane?
 
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fresh_42 said:
That's why I said projective space. Can we keep the metric via the transition from circle to line, sphere to plane?
What is the "standard" metric in Projective space? Is it the quotient metric?EDIT: Do we even know if the projective space is metrizable?
 
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I have no idea, that's why I asked.
 
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fresh_42 said:
I have no idea, that's why I asked.
BAH. It is a manifold and manifolds are metrizable. With weird exceptions for 1-2 people who allow non-Hausdorff.
 
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WWGD said:
BAH. It is a manifold and manifolds are metrizable. With weird exceptions for 1-2 people who allow non-Hausdorff.
When it comes to topology I need to see. If possible step by step. Those people are notoriously counterintuitive.
 
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fresh_42 said:
When it comes to topology I need to see. If possible step by step. Those people are notoriously counterintuitive.
This is the standard case, don't know if there are many others "non-trivially" different: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-Hausdorff_manifold#Line_with_two_origins :

EDIT: Proof of boundedness: d(x,y) is continuous on YxY for Y compact. Then d: YxY -->R is a continuous function on the compact set YxY, and so it is bounded.
 
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