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The discussion centers on the proof of Lemma 1.2.21 from "An Introduction to Rings and Modules With K-Theory in View" by A.J. Berrick and M.E. Keating. Participants seek clarification on the existence of a minimal subset of a finitely generated module \( M \) that generates \( M \) alongside a submodule \( L \). The proof asserts that since \( M \) is finitely generated, one can identify a finite set \( S \) such that \( L + \langle S \rangle = M \), leading to the conclusion that a minimal generating subset exists. Additionally, the inductiveness of the set \( S \) of submodules is discussed, with references to definitions provided in section 1.2.18 of the text.

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I am reading An Introduction to Rings and Modules With K-Theory in View by A.J. Berrick and M.E. Keating (B&K).

I need help with the proof of Lemma 1.2.21 ...

Lemma 1.2.21 and its proof reads as follows:
View attachment 6037Question 1In the above text by Berrick and Keating, we read the following:"... ... Since $$M$$ is finitely generated, there is a minimal subset $$\{ x_0, \ ... \ ... \ , x_s \}$$ of $$M$$ such that

$$x_0 R + \ ... \ ... \ , x_s R + L = M. \ ... \ ... \ ... $$" My problem is as follows:

I cannot see exactly why there exists a minimal subset $$\{ x_0, \ ... \ ... \ , x_s \}$$ of $$M$$ such that

$$x_0 R + \ ... \ ... \ , x_s R + L = M$$. ... ... ... Can someone please demonstrate, rigorously and formally, that there exists a minimal subset $$\{ x_0, \ ... \ ... \ , x_s \}$$ of $$M$$ such that

$$x_0 R + \ ... \ ... \ , x_s R + L = M$$?

Question 2In the above text by Berrick and Keating, we read the following:"... ... Let $$S$$ be the set of submodules $$X$$ of $$M$$ that contain $$x_1 R + \ ... \ ... \ , x_s R + L$$ but do not contain $$x_0$$. It is obvious that $$S$$ is inductive ... ..." Can someone please explain exactly why $$S$$ is inductive ... ... ?Hope someone can help ...

Peter========================================================================B&K's definition of "inductive" is contained in section 1.2.18 ... ... . which reads as follows:https://www.physicsforums.com/attachments/6038
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Peter said:
I am reading An Introduction to Rings and Modules With K-Theory in View by A.J. Berrick and M.E. Keating (B&K).

I need help with the proof of Lemma 1.2.21 ...

Lemma 1.2.21 and its proof reads as follows:
Question 1In the above text by Berrick and Keating, we read the following:"... ... Since $$M$$ is finitely generated, there is a minimal subset $$\{ x_0, \ ... \ ... \ , x_s \}$$ of $$M$$ such that

$$x_0 R + \ ... \ ... \ , x_s R + L = M. \ ... \ ... \ ... $$" My problem is as follows:

I cannot see exactly why there exists a minimal subset $$\{ x_0, \ ... \ ... \ , x_s \}$$ of $$M$$ such that

$$x_0 R + \ ... \ ... \ , x_s R + L = M$$. ... ... ... Can someone please demonstrate, rigorously and formally, that there exists a minimal subset $$\{ x_0, \ ... \ ... \ , x_s \}$$ of $$M$$ such that

$$x_0 R + \ ... \ ... \ , x_s R + L = M$$?

Question 2In the above text by Berrick and Keating, we read the following:"... ... Let $$S$$ be the set of submodules $$X$$ of $$M$$ that contain $$x_1 R + \ ... \ ... \ , x_s R + L$$ but do not contain $$x_0$$. It is obvious that $$S$$ is inductive ... ..." Can someone please explain exactly why $$S$$ is inductive ... ... ?Hope someone can help ...

Peter========================================================================B&K's definition of "inductive" is contained in section 1.2.18 ... ... . which reads as follows:
The existence of a minimal $S$ is rather obvious. Since $M$ is finitely generated, one can find a finite set $S$ such that $L+\langle S\rangle =M$. Take a smallest subset of $S$ which generates the same submodule as $S$. This is a required minimial subset.

I will post about the inductiveness of $S$ when I have some more time. But at first look it semmed like this too follows immediately from the definitions.
 
caffeinemachine said:
The existence of a minimal $S$ is rather obvious. Since $M$ is finitely generated, one can find a finite set $S$ such that $L+\langle S\rangle =M$. Take a smallest subset of $S$ which generates the same submodule as $S$. This is a required minimial subset.

I will post about the inductiveness of $S$ when I have some more time. But at first look it semmed like this too follows immediately from the definitions.
Thanks for the help, caffeinemachine BUT ... I do not follow ...

You write:"... ... Since $M$ is finitely generated, one can find a finite set $S$ such that $L+\langle S\rangle =M$ ... ... BUT ... why exactly is this true ... can you be more explicit ...

Peter
 

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