Experimenting with Fire and Liquid Oxygen: My Fun Discovery

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The discussion centers on an experiment involving the creation of liquid oxygen using liquid nitrogen. The experiment demonstrated that oxygen condenses preferentially on a liquid nitrogen pan, resulting in an oxygen-rich liquid. The participant successfully maintained a flame while conducting the experiment, despite the cold nitrogen vapors. Future steps include measuring the relative concentrations of oxygen and nitrogen, which can be achieved using accessible measurement tools.

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  • Understanding of liquid nitrogen properties and handling
  • Knowledge of gas condensation principles
  • Familiarity with measuring gas concentrations
  • Basic laboratory safety protocols
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  • Research methods for measuring oxygen concentration in gases
  • Explore techniques for collecting liquid oxygen safely
  • Learn about gas chromatography for analyzing gas mixtures
  • Investigate the properties and applications of liquid nitrogen in experiments
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This discussion is beneficial for chemistry enthusiasts, experimental scientists, and educators interested in gas properties and experimental techniques involving cryogenics.

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Earlier, I had posted that I thought that I had made liquid oxygen. People seemed skeptical that it would work, but I did an experiment to prove the concept.

On a ring stand, I had some burning paper towel. I put some liquid nitrogen in a pie tin and allowed atmosphere to condense on the outside. Allowing this cold liquid to fall on the burning paper produced small spurts of burning paper. It was a bit difficult to keep the cold nitrogen vapors from blowing out the fire, but if the pie tin was held high enough, this was not an issue.

I know this isn't any ground-breaking science, but it sure was fun! Should I write a paper?
 
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Hi flatmaster. What you saw was slightly concentrated oxygen. Oxygen condenses preferentially on the liquid nitrogen pan you had, producing an oxygen rich liquid because oxygen condenses at a slightly higher temperature.
 
That's what I figured. It seems quite amazing that the cold nitrogen that's in there doesn't blow out the flame when it expands. I suppose the next step is to collect some and measure the relative concentrations. How can I do that?
 
Measuring oxygen concentration is much easier & less expensive than measuring nitrogen. See what's available to measure O2 concentration. Perhaps you could collect the drops off the pan by sucking them into an evacuated container.
 

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