Fiscal cliff, debt ceiling and research funding

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The discussion revolves around the potential impact of recent economic pressures in the US on research funding at universities, particularly in relation to government expenditures and specific funding sources like NASA and the Department of Defense. Participants explore the implications of budget cuts and the prioritization of funding in various sectors.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that funding cuts to research in US universities are likely, but the Department of Defense funding may remain stable despite being viewed as wasteful.
  • There is a concern that cuts will disproportionately affect social programs like Medicare and Medicaid rather than research funding.
  • A leaked memo from NASA is mentioned, indicating potential negative impacts on NASA-funded Research Experiences for Undergraduates (REUs), though the implications for broader research funding remain unclear.
  • One participant argues that cuts will not affect essential research funding, suggesting that only "useless" expenditures will be targeted.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the likelihood and nature of funding cuts, with no consensus on whether research funding will be significantly affected or which areas will face cuts. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the overall impact on research funding.

Contextual Notes

Participants rely on assumptions about government priorities and the accuracy of leaked information, which may not be fully substantiated. The discussion reflects varying perspectives on the implications of economic pressures without definitive conclusions.

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Will the recent economic pressure in the US result in funding cuts of the research in the US universities? Let's debate.
 
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Kholdstare said:
Will the recent economic pressure in the US result in funding cuts of the research in the US universities? Let's debate.
Probably somewhat. But the Department of Defense related funding, much of which is, arguably, the most wasteful, will, imo, not be significantly affected. This is good news for the scientists and bureaucrats involved, but maybe not such good news for the country, imo.

The biggest, most reasonably cuttable expenditures of the US government (eg., DoD funding, welfare for corporations and the very wealthy) will, imo, probably not be significantly touched. Instead, I predict, a propaganda campaign against government aid to the needy will be mounted, and will result in cuts in medicare, medicaid, social security, and financial, food and housing aid to the poor.

The Obama regime is a pretty conservative one, imo. I don't see it deviating much from traditional conservative actions. In other words, Obama is not about what his rhetoric is intended to lead one to believe he's about ... imho.

Is this a bad thing or a good thing? Imo, it's essentially a good thing. The status quo, and thus a certain predictable stability, will be maintained.
 
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If this leaked memo from NASA is accurate, looks like any good NASA-funded REUs are out the window now.
 
Ai52487963 said:
If this leaked memo from NASA is accurate, looks like any good NASA-funded REUs are out the window now.

That does not tell anything about research funding, only the useless stuffs get cut off.
 

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