Fixed amplitude of electric field operator in quantum optics

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the fixed amplitude of the electric field operator in a cavity within the context of quantum optics. Participants explore the implications of this fixed amplitude, its normalization, and its relationship to classical fields and quantum mechanics.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the meaning of normalizing an operator and the significance of the fixed amplitude expression, suggesting that the quantities involved seem arbitrary.
  • Another participant asserts that the electric field operator is a projection, implying that applying the operator twice informs the normalization process.
  • A different participant challenges this by stating that the electric field operator is not a projection since its trace is zero.
  • One participant provides a derivation starting from a classical single mode field that satisfies Maxwell's equations, leading to the prefactor for the electric field operator when quantized.
  • Another participant points out that while the classical solution can be multiplied by an arbitrary constant, this would not satisfy the canonical commutation relations in the quantum context.
  • A later reply acknowledges this reasoning, indicating a level of agreement on the importance of the canonical commutation relations.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the normalization of the electric field operator and the implications of its fixed amplitude. While some agree on the necessity of satisfying canonical commutation relations, the overall discussion remains unresolved regarding the arbitrary nature of the amplitude and its derivation.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the volume "V" refers to the effective mode volume rather than the physical volume of the cavity, highlighting potential nuances in definitions that may affect the discussion.

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Hi guys, I'm trying to understand why does the amplitude of the electric field operator in a cavity is fixed at

\left ( \displaystyle\frac{\hbar\omega}{\epsilon_{0}V} \right )^\frac{1}{2}

Every book I read says it is a normalization factor... but, normalizing an operator?, what is the meaning of that in this context?, they also call it the "aplitude per photon"...

I know the "V" (volume of the cavity) comes from the normalization of the cavity modes, but all the other quantities seem arbitrary to me.

It does makes sense for the amplitude to be fixed that way in order to obtain a correct expresion for the field intensity... but in the quantization process I don't see a mathematical reason for that specific value... why can't I multiply this amplitude by an arbitrary constant?

Thanks! :wink:
 
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It's an operator. That is, in a sense, it is a projection.

What do you get when you apply the same operator twice? That tells you what you need to put in for a normalization.
 
Thanks for your answer, but I think your advice does not apply in this case, as the electric field operator is not a projection (its trace is zero).
 
Start with a classical single mode field that satisfies Maxwell's equation
<br /> E_x(z,t)= ( \frac{2\omega^2}{V\epsilon_0}) q(t) \sin (kz)<br />

where q(t) is the canonical position. If you now quantize this equation in the usual way by introducing the annihilation (and creation) operators
\hat{a}= (2 \hbar \omega)^{-1/2} (\omega \hat{q} +i \hat{p})
you get that prefactor for the E field operator.

Also, note that V is the effective (mode) volume, not the volume of the cavity.
 
First of all, thanks for the answer f95toli.

That's exactly my point, every quantum optics book starts assuming that form (with a fixed amplitude) for a classical single mode field, even though you can multiply that same solution by an arbitrary constant and still satisfy maxwell equations.
 
But then the fields won't satisfy the canonical commutation relations.
 
Thanks Avodyne! That's the reason! :biggrin:
 

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