Fluid Mechanics: Hydrostatic Pressure on a gate with hinges

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The discussion revolves around calculating hydrostatic pressure on a gate with hinges in the context of fluid mechanics. Participants explore how to determine the torque exerted by water on the gate, considering the pressure distribution across the surface of the gate.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the need to integrate to find the total torque exerted by water, questioning how to express the force on a differential area of the gate. There are considerations about the relationship between depth, height, and pressure.

Discussion Status

Some participants have offered guidance on expressing the force in terms of depth and height, while others are verifying their logic and calculations. The discussion is progressing with attempts to clarify the relationships between variables involved.

Contextual Notes

There are indications of uncertainty regarding the relationship between the height of the water and the dimensions of the gate, as well as the assumptions made about pressure distribution.

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Lets start with the easy part:

The pressure of the air is constant so the pressure will act as if it's a concentrated force on the center of gravity of the gate.

F = PA = (10,000Pa)(.3)(.6)=1800N

The moment about B = 1800N (.15m) = 270Nm.

Now we know that the water has to exert a 270Nm torque to make the gate move.

This is where I'm stuck. I'm not sure how to find the torque that the water exerts on the gate. Depending on the ratio of h to the height of the door, .3, it seems to me that the concentrated force of the water might land above the door. So it seems to me like I can't use the same method. I feel like I need to integrate and add up all the small moments across the whole door.

So the integral would be something like

integrating from B to .3

M = ∫ γ(volume of water)dy

but I don't know anything else except the height for the water...
 
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Feodalherren said:
I feel like I need to integrate and add up all the small moments across the whole door.

So the integral would be something like

integrating from B to .3

M = ∫ γ(volume of water)dy

but I don't know anything else except the height for the water...

OK. You have the right idea. If you let y denote depth below point B, how would you express the force from the water on a horizontal strip of the gate if the strip extends from y to y+dy?
 
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Hmm I'm not sure. I guess that's kind of where I'm stuck.

The pressure would depend on h and I'm not sure how to relate h to the length of the gate.
 
From the picture below, what is the depth, H, of the strip below the surface of the water in terms of h, y, and .30 m?
 

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H= h + y - .30

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Feodalherren said:
H= h + y - .30

?
Yes. So, you can express the force on the strip in terms of H, and therefore in terms of y and h.
 
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Ok so dA= .6 dy

The force exerted by the water on a differential of the area is

Fw = P(.6)dy

The pressure of the water:

ϒ = 9790 N / m^3

P= ϒ(h+y-.3)

then the force becomes (ignoring direction since we know it's opposite to the direction of the force of the air).

Fw(total) = ∫ ϒ(h+y-.3)(.6)dy

integrate from 0 to .3

is that correct?
 
Feodalherren said:
The pressure of the water:

ϒ = 9790 N / m^3

P= ϒ(h+y-.3)

OK, I guess you're using 9.79 m/s2 for g.

then the force becomes (ignoring direction since we know it's opposite to the direction of the force of the air).

Fw(total) = ∫ ϒ(h+y-.3)(.6)dy

integrate from 0 to .3

is that correct?

This would yield the force, but you want the torque.
 
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The number came out of my book, Fluid Mechanics by Frank White 5th ed.

Yeah I just wanted to check my logic. Okay so if that's the total force then the total torque must just be the total force multiplied by the distance

T = F y

where y is the distance from B to the point of application of the force.

so

T = ∫ ϒ(h+y-.3)(.6)y dy

correct?
 
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Looks good.
 
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Thank you so much! I got the correct answer!
 
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Great! Good work.
 

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