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The discussion revolves around a visit to the Evergreen Aircraft Museum in McMinnville, Oregon, with a focus on various aircraft, particularly the Spruce Goose and the Vampire. Participants share personal experiences, photos, and thoughts about the museum and its exhibits, including comparisons to other aviation museums.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant shares multiple photos from their visit to the museum, highlighting the Spruce Goose and other aircraft.
  • Another participant expresses a desire to visit the museum, noting the significance of the Spruce Goose's relocation from Long Beach to Oregon.
  • Some participants comment on the impressive size of the Spruce Goose, with one noting it is hard to believe it got off the ground.
  • A participant mentions seeing the Vampire aircraft and reminisces about its previous location in Long Beach.
  • There are discussions about the addition of new aircraft to the museum since previous visits, including a Vought Corsair and a TBF-1 Avenger.
  • Participants express interest in visiting the Smithsonian's National Air and Space Museum, sharing their enthusiasm for the exhibits there.
  • One participant humorously remarks about the size of the Avenger and their previous misconceptions about it.
  • Another participant shares a desire to take better photos of the Vampire on a future trip.
  • There is a mention of the SR-71 being displayed at the museum, with some participants expressing curiosity about its presence.
  • Some participants discuss the experience of visiting other aviation museums, including recommendations for locations in the UK and Germany.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the impressive nature of the Spruce Goose and the value of visiting aviation museums. However, there are differing opinions on specific aircraft and experiences, and no consensus is reached on the overall significance of the Spruce Goose's flight capabilities.

Contextual Notes

Some participants reference personal experiences and anecdotes that may not be universally applicable, and there are varying levels of familiarity with the aircraft mentioned. The discussion includes speculative comments about the aircraft's history and significance without definitive conclusions.

Who May Find This Useful

Aviation enthusiasts, museum-goers, and individuals interested in historical aircraft and their significance may find this discussion engaging.

  • #31
Integral said:
Janus,
I did not see the Tri motor, it just so happens that a coworker was there the day before I was. He said he saw the Tri motor take off. So it must be out some where.

They also have a SR71 parked under the Goose, I had family in all my shots of it so choose not to post them.

Considering the number of exhibits they've added, I'm going to have to get myself back out there one of these days.
 
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  • #32
FredGarvin said:
The Spider Man reference was a bit rough...
The Vamp is the only machine that I'm aware of, off the top of my head, that uses the 'D.H. Goblin' engine. :redface:
 
  • #33
Janus said:
Considering the number of exhibits they've added, I'm going to have to get myself back out there one of these days.
Humm... Ivan and I have tentively planned a trip in about 2 weeks, maybe we could meet there?
 
  • #34
After having seen The Aviator I wondered just how big the Goose was comparatively, so I whipped this up.

That green outline is the the new A380 Airbus, launched with great fanfare only a few months ago as the largest commercial airliner ever to go into production. The Spruce Goose dwarfs it with a wingspan 120 feet wider.


sprucegoose.jpg
 
  • #35
DaveC426913 said:
After having seen The Aviator I wondered just how big the Goose was comparatively, so I whipped this up.

That green outline is the the new A380 Airbus, launched with great fanfare only a few months ago as the largest commercial airliner ever to go into production. The Spruce Goose dwarfs it with a wingspan 120 feet wider.


sprucegoose.jpg

They have a diagram similar to this one posted by the SG.
 
  • #36
Integral said:
Humm... Ivan and I have tentively planned a trip in about 2 weeks, maybe we could meet there?

Once you make your final plans let me know, and I'll meet you there if I can make it on that day.
 
  • #37
Ivan, Janus and I hit Aircraft museum today.



Here are some better shots of the Vampire

http://home.comcast.net/~rossgr1/EAM/Vampire.JPG

http://home.comcast.net/~rossgr1/EAM/vampire2.JPG


Here are the http://home.comcast.net/~rossgr1/EAM/mentors.JPG discussing the day in the museum.


I'll be posting more if there is interest,
 
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  • #38
When you guys spoted the Vampire I was a bit unprepared, in other words I did not even notice the plane the first visit. While Ivan was tracking down Janus I started taking pictures.

I totally missed the Vampire the first time through. This time I got it pretty well covered. What a neat little plane.

Here are some shots of the tail, this split tail design caught me by surprise.
http://home.comcast.net/~rossgr1/EAM/Vampire3.JPG


http://home.comcast.net/~rossgr1/EAM/Vampire4.JPG
 
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  • #39
Integral said:
Ivan, Janus and I hit Aircraft museum today.

Here are the http://home.comcast.net/~rossgr1/EAM/mentors.JPG discussing the day in the museum.

The challenge of course is to figure out who's who.
 
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  • #40
Thanks for taking some more pics Integral. They were pretty decent little planes for their day. Now it would be a kick ass little toy for someone with some serious bucks. I know of a couple of folks restoring some they bought from the Swedes.
 
  • #41
We were there for about 1.5hrs, I took something over 100 pics. That is about one a minute. Ivan and Janus were talking flying and about the planes, I had and ear open and the camera to my eye pretty much the whole time. I will be posting more of them, just spreading it out a bit.

I am also playing the size of the image. I have been keeping them small for the bandwidth challenged, but also want to make them as big as possible for viewing. I have stepped up the size a notch, let's see how that works.

Edit: Oh yeah I wanted to add these pics of the Goblin engine

http://home.comcast.net/~rossgr1/EAM/goblin.JPG

and this info board about it.

http://home.comcast.net/~rossgr1/EAM/goblin_info.JPG
 
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  • #42
Thanks for the Vamp pix, Integral. It's a nice little machine, alright. It really does look in these photos as if the Goose is just getting really to stomp on it.
 
  • #43
BTW, Ivan and Integral,

I did some quick net research on the MIG-15 they had on display outside. As far as I can tell, the single seater with the shorter cockpit was the MIG-15 FAGOT, while the one we saw was a MIG-15 UTI (a two seater).
 
  • #44
Here is the Mig15.
http://home.comcast.net/~rossgr1/EAM/MiG15.JPG[/URL] [/PLAIN]

I found a pic on the web that showed this model, Thanks for digging deeper.
 
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  • #45
Danger said:
Thanks for the Vamp pix, Integral. It's a nice little machine, alright. It really does look in these photos as if the Goose is just getting really to stomp on it.
LOL, yeah, that pontoon on the goose is bigger the whole Vampire!
 
  • #46
Integral said:
LOL, yeah, that pontoon on the goose is bigger the whole Vampire!
Somehow, looking at the pictures, that name really seems to fit (like a vampire bat). Cute little thing.
 
  • #47
Moonbear said:
Cute little thing.
Cute little thing with teeth. That sucker packs four 20mm cannon. The recoil of all of them firing at once is probably almost half of the engine thrust. (Okay, I exaggerate... but not by much.)
 
  • #48
I had no idea that the MiG 15 had a two seater version...
 
  • #49
FredGarvin said:
I had no idea that the MiG 15 had a two seater version...
The UTI was developed primarily as a trainer. The rear seat sat where a part of the fuel tank for the single seater would be, So they were sometimes fitted with external tanks under the wings.
 
  • #50
Danger said:
Cute little thing with teeth. That sucker packs four 20mm cannon. The recoil of all of them firing at once is probably almost half of the engine thrust. (Okay, I exaggerate... but not by much.)

Well, I thought the black and yellow covers they had over the front wheel looked a bit like fangs in the picture. :biggrin: But, vampires are supposed to have teeth, right? I know, I know, this is why the men won't take the women along to see these things; they're busy being impressed by the gadgets and doodads, and I'm looking at the split-tail design thinking "swallow-tailed butterfly" and "cute." :rolleyes: :smile:
 
  • #51
Moonbear said:
I'm looking at the split-tail design thinking "swallow-tailed butterfly" and "cute." :rolleyes: :smile:
If you ever have one of these things flying around in your pants you'll get over the concept of 'cute' right quickly. :-p
 
  • #52
Oh em gee I'm famous! I went Googling for plans of the Spruce Goose and found this thread!

Google image: spruce goose plans