Forbidden decay ##\rho^0\rightarrow \pi^0\pi^0##

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The discussion revolves around the decay process of the neutral rho meson, ##\rho^0 \rightarrow \pi^0\pi^0##, which is considered forbidden. Participants explore the reasons behind this classification, focusing on aspects of Bose-Einstein statistics and isospin considerations.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether the isospin wave function should be considered in the analysis of the decay, noting a discrepancy with their textbook.
  • Another participant suggests looking at Clebsch-Gordan coefficients to understand the decay's forbidden nature.
  • A later reply indicates that the amplitude for the decay is zero but leaves open the possibility of other reasons for this outcome.
  • One participant asserts that the isospin of the two-pion final state cannot match that of the rho meson, emphasizing that while the decay is isospin forbidden, this is not an absolute prohibition.
  • Another participant states that the spin-statistics argument (without considering isospin) is absolute, implying a stronger basis for the decay's prohibition.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the role of isospin in the decay process, with some emphasizing its importance while others focus on the spin-statistics argument. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the interplay between these factors.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight limitations in their reasoning, particularly regarding the treatment of isospin and the implications of the Clebsch-Gordan coefficients. There is an acknowledgment of the complexity involved in the decay process and the need for careful consideration of various quantum numbers.

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Reasons behind the forbidden decay ##\rho^0\rightarrow \pi^0\pi^0## and considerations about the wave function of two bosons system
Hello everybody!

I have a question regarding the forbidden decay ##\rho^0 \rightarrow \pi^0\pi^0##, but it is a general doubt.

My book states that one of the reasons why the decay is forbidden is Bose-Einstein statistics, the final state of two equal pions must be in an antisymmetric state.
My reasoning is the following. The wave function of two pions is:
$$\psi_{\pi^0\pi^0} = \psi_{space}\psi_{isospin}$$
I neglect the spin part since pions are spin-0 particles.
##\rho## is a spin-1 particle, so the orbital momentum of the two pions system is ##l=1##; analogously for isospin ##I=1##.

$$(exchange)\psi_{\pi^0\pi^0} =(exchange) \psi_{space}\psi_{isospin} = (-1)^l(-1)^I = (+1)$$

My result is not in agreement with the book. However, if I do not consider the isospin wave function everything is ok.
My question is if I should consider the isospin wavefunction. If not, why?
 
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Look at the Clebsch-Gordan coefficients.
 
Vanadium 50 said:
Look at the Clebsch-Gordan coefficients.

$$|\rho^0> = |1,0> = \frac{1}{\sqrt{2}}|1,+1>|1,-1> + 0 |1,0>|1,0> - \frac{1}{\sqrt{2}}|1,-1>|1,+1> = $$ $$ =2\frac{1}{\sqrt{2}}|1,+1>|1,-1> + 0 |1,0>|1,0> = \frac{1}{\sqrt{2}}|\pi^+\pi^-> + 0 |\pi^0\pi^0>$$

From the Clebsch-Gordan coefficients I see that the decay in ##\pi^0\pi^0## is forbidden, but I do not see the link with my way of looking at the problem.
 
I'm not sure what to tell you. The amplitude is zero. Might it be zero for some other reason too? I guess.
 
The rho has Ispin 1. pi0-pi0 cannot be in an I=1 state.
The decay is Ispin forbidden, but that is not absolute.
The spin-statistic argument (without Ispin) is absolute.
 
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