Force and acceleration of a rocket

Click For Summary

Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around the dynamics of a rocket launch, specifically focusing on the relationship between thrust, weight, and acceleration as the rocket consumes fuel. The problem involves understanding the forces acting on the rocket, including the mass of the rocket, the thrust generated by exhaust gases, and the effects of gravity.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Exploratory

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the condition at ignition where thrust equals the weight of the rocket, questioning how this relationship holds as fuel is consumed. There is confusion regarding the application of Newton's Second Law and the role of gravity in thrust generation. Some participants attempt to clarify the relationship between thrust and the mass of exhaust gases.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants seeking to clarify their understanding of thrust and its constancy throughout the rocket's flight. Some guidance has been provided regarding the conditions at ignition and the implications of constant ejection speed and fuel consumption rate.

Contextual Notes

Participants are grappling with the implications of the problem's assumptions, including the constancy of fuel ejection and the acceleration due to gravity. There is an acknowledgment of the lack of acceleration at ignition and how that changes as fuel is burned.

Sarah0001
Messages
31
Reaction score
1

Homework Statement



A rocket, total mass 1.00 × 10^4 kg, is launched vertically; eighty per cent of the mass being fuel. At ignition, time t = 0, the thrust equals the weight of the rocket. The ejected exhaust gases have a speed of 9.00 × 10^2 ms ^–1. Assuming the rate of fuel consumption and the acceleration due to gravity are constant,

calculate: (i) the mass, m, of gases ejected per second (ii) the acceleration, ae , of the rocket when the fuel is almost exhausted at time te

The part I am stuck on is part ii - I am confused on how the thrust is equal to 1.00 × 10^4 * g as seen on the uploaded work solutions below.
F net = Thrust - Weight of rocket
Total Mass of rocket * net acceleration = Thrust - 0.2* total mass rocket *acceleration due to gravity
I am confused on how the Thrust is equal to the weight of the total mass of the rocket. Is there a physical explanation for this

Homework Equations


F=ma
W = Mg

3. My attempt at a solution
Am I correct in my logic that since the exhaust gases cause the thrust of the rocket, then

the net acceleration of the rocket would be the mass of the exhaust gases at time te multiplied by acceleration due to gravity and this product divided by the mass of the rocket, as this is what the thrust force is acting on.

Although this gets to the same numerical answer, I am not convinced I used Newton's Second Law in terms of the worked solutions as I am currently unable to understand how thrust at that time where fuel is nearly exhausted, equals 1.00*10^4 *g. I just thought that thrust equals the exhaust gases * g , and acting on the rocket. I feel there is something wrong in my understanding.
 

Attachments

  • 2018-11-05 (2).png
    2018-11-05 (2).png
    78.2 KB · Views: 370
Physics news on Phys.org
Sarah0001 said:
am confused on how the thrust is equal to 1.00 × 10^4 * g
You are given this:
Sarah0001 said:
At ignition, time t = 0, the thrust equals the weight of the rocket.
That is, at ignition there is no acceleration. But as fuel burns the weight goes down and the thrust exceeds the weight.
Sarah0001 said:
the net acceleration of the rocket would be the mass of the exhaust gases at time
The thrust comes from the expulsion of the exhaust. This depends on the rate of ejection of fuel mass and the speed at which it is ejected.
Sarah0001 said:
multiplied by acceleration due to gravity
How can gravity contribute to thrust?!
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Likes   Reactions: Sarah0001
[/QUOTE]That is, at ignition there is no acceleration. But as fuel burns the weight goes down and the thrust exceeds the weight.

The thrust comes from the expulsion of the exhaust. This depends on the rate of ejection of fuel mass and the speed at which it is ejected.
haruspex said:
You are given this:
Thank you

Since both the speed at which it is ejected is constant (9.00*10^2 ms^-1), and as the rate of ejection of fuel is constant too (which is in Kg s^1 ?) does this mean we can assume the thrust to be constant from t=0 throughout the duration of the flight?
 
Sarah0001 said:
Since both the speed at which it is ejected is constant (9.00*10^2 ms^-1), and as the rate of ejection of fuel is constant too (which is in Kg s^1 ?) does this mean we can assume the thrust to be constant from t=0 throughout the duration of the flight?
Yes.
 
  • Like
Likes   Reactions: Sarah0001

Similar threads

  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
1K
  • · Replies 10 ·
Replies
10
Views
2K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
1K
  • · Replies 47 ·
2
Replies
47
Views
3K
  • · Replies 42 ·
2
Replies
42
Views
6K
  • · Replies 22 ·
Replies
22
Views
3K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
2K
  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
2K
  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
3K
  • · Replies 6 ·
Replies
6
Views
3K