Force and motion -- A water drop on the windscreen of a car

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The discussion centers on the dynamics of a water drop on a car's windscreen, focusing on the forces acting on the drop as the car accelerates. It is established that the horizontal force exerted by the wind affects the drop's position, and the normal force (R) must increase to maintain the drop's stability on the sloped surface. The frictional force (F) is directly proportional to the normal force, indicating that as R increases, F also increases. Additionally, the role of surface tension in maintaining the drop's position is highlighted, emphasizing that static friction is not always proportional to the normal force.

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Yes, the wind will exert a horizontal force, and R may also change.
You will need to make some assumption about the nature of F to decide whether that will change,
You also know that the drop stays on the windscreen, which gives you information relating the acceleration of the car to the acceleration of the drop.
 
haruspex said:
Yes, the wind will exert a horizontal force, and R may also change.
You will need to make some assumption about the nature of F to decide whether that will change,
You also know that the drop stays on the windscreen, which gives you information relating the acceleration of the car to the acceleration of the drop.
F is friction. When car accelerates, the drop goes to the left with the same acceleration so R has to increase since it needs a bigger component to the left . F is always directly proportionality to R so F increases as well.
haruspex said:
Yes, the wind will exert a horizontal force, and R may also change.
You will need to make some assumption about the nature of F to decide whether that will change,
You also know that the drop stays on the windscreen, which gives you information relating the acceleration of the car to the acceleration of the drop.
Thanks for the comment. F is friction. When car accelerates, the drop goes to the left with the same acceleration so R has to increase since it needs a bigger component to the left . F is always directly proportionality to R so F increases as well. Is this correct ?
 
shk said:
F is friction... F is always directly proportionality to R so F increases as well.
Water is not solid. When it flows over a surface, it does not all need to move at once.
I would think a raindrop can stay where it is on a sloping surface because of surface tension. That does not increase when the normal force increases.
Anyway, it is not true that static frictional force is proportional to normal force. It is only ever as large as it needs to be to prevent sliding. ##\mu_sN## is only the upper limit of the magnitude of the frictional force.
 

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